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	<description>New perspectives on mainland Southeast Asia</description>
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		<title>By: Historicus</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/01/12/in-sufficient-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-219007</link>
		<dc:creator>Historicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One obvious way to boost regional self-sufficiency is to move more food processing upstream to the provincial level. I could see local entrepreneurs who have the requisite technical skills in food science,...doing at a local level essentially what CP Foods does at a national level for export.&quot; 

Wasn&#039;t that what OTOP was about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One obvious way to boost regional self-sufficiency is to move more food processing upstream to the provincial level. I could see local entrepreneurs who have the requisite technical skills in food science,&#8230;doing at a local level essentially what CP Foods does at a national level for export.&#8221; </p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t that what OTOP was about?</p>
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		<title>By: Royalist propaganda and policy nonsense</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/01/12/in-sufficient-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-218927</link>
		<dc:creator>Royalist propaganda and policy nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New Mandala readers may recall my commentary on the UNDP&#8217;s 2007 Human Development Report for Thailand. Kevin Hewison has also written a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] New Mandala readers may recall my commentary on the UNDP&#8217;s 2007 Human Development Report for Thailand. Kevin Hewison has also written a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New Mandala &#187; Sufficiency going forward, diversity going backward</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/01/12/in-sufficient-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-21415</link>
		<dc:creator>New Mandala &#187; Sufficiency going forward, diversity going backward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is my final comment on the UNDP’s 2007 Thailand Human Development Report (for my previous post see here). My comments in this post focus on the final chapter (&#8221;Sufficiency going forward&#8221;) which explores the ways in which the sufficiency economy approach can help to &#8220;change the direction of thinking and practice on development&#8221; in Thailand. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is my final comment on the UNDP’s 2007 Thailand Human Development Report (for my previous post see here). My comments in this post focus on the final chapter (&#8221;Sufficiency going forward&#8221;) which explores the ways in which the sufficiency economy approach can help to &#8220;change the direction of thinking and practice on development&#8221; in Thailand. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Fernquest</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/01/12/in-sufficient-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-20479</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Fernquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One obvious way to boost regional self-sufficiency is to move more food processing upstream to the provincial level. I could see local entrepreneurs who have the requisite technical skills in food science, e.g.:
http://www.readbangkokpost.com/business/entrepreneurship/abalone_farming_a_new_food_fro.php

...doing at a local level essentially what CP Foods does at a national level for export:
http://www.readbangkokpost.com/business/international_trade/cp_foods_export_strategies_in.php

Certain fields in Thai universities like Food Science are more important than in western universities. But the pioneering abalone entrepreneur in the article above was trained as a vet, so you could argue that the more general rigorous training of the natural sciences is very pertinent. The importance of the fundamental and more universal subjects that have been around for ages like mathematics is underrated. The university I worked at had no math department but it did have a trendy cosmetic science department, more an artifact of marketing than knowledge per se.

IMHO instead of taking His Majesty the King&#039;s words and try to create some monolithic new all-encompassing subject out of it, if people just **thought good and hard** for a couple of minutes each day, perhaps before breakfast, **about what &quot;Paw Piang&quot; actually means** and then practiced it with perseverance in their own daily lives (albeit it is difficult to do that in the hustle bustle of Bangkok) that would be of much more value than big theories and a course. One of the most disheartening things about being a teacher was seeing all the lecture notes strewn about on the ground outside the examination room after the final exam. I still have the lecture notes from when I was a graduate student at Stanford 20 years ago.

Three weeks ago the government was claiming that they didn&#039;t know how to activate the &quot;sufficiency economy&quot; philosophy in policy. Three weeks later they have grandiose all encompassing ideas and policies. They should get a clue. 

The sufficiency economy is already there. Rural people can go down to a bookstore learn how to fish farm in their backyard. Ask some neighbors for some advice and presto, enough cash to eat everyday. Pak Bung, it grows wild by the side of the road! People just need to learn to use what they already have better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One obvious way to boost regional self-sufficiency is to move more food processing upstream to the provincial level. I could see local entrepreneurs who have the requisite technical skills in food science, e.g.:<br />
<a href="http://www.readbangkokpost.com/business/entrepreneurship/abalone_farming_a_new_food_fro.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.readbangkokpost.com/business/entrepreneurship/abalone_farming_a_new_food_fro.php</a></p>
<p>&#8230;doing at a local level essentially what CP Foods does at a national level for export:<br />
<a href="http://www.readbangkokpost.com/business/international_trade/cp_foods_export_strategies_in.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.readbangkokpost.com/business/international_trade/cp_foods_export_strategies_in.php</a></p>
<p>Certain fields in Thai universities like Food Science are more important than in western universities. But the pioneering abalone entrepreneur in the article above was trained as a vet, so you could argue that the more general rigorous training of the natural sciences is very pertinent. The importance of the fundamental and more universal subjects that have been around for ages like mathematics is underrated. The university I worked at had no math department but it did have a trendy cosmetic science department, more an artifact of marketing than knowledge per se.</p>
<p>IMHO instead of taking His Majesty the King&#8217;s words and try to create some monolithic new all-encompassing subject out of it, if people just **thought good and hard** for a couple of minutes each day, perhaps before breakfast, **about what &#8220;Paw Piang&#8221; actually means** and then practiced it with perseverance in their own daily lives (albeit it is difficult to do that in the hustle bustle of Bangkok) that would be of much more value than big theories and a course. One of the most disheartening things about being a teacher was seeing all the lecture notes strewn about on the ground outside the examination room after the final exam. I still have the lecture notes from when I was a graduate student at Stanford 20 years ago.</p>
<p>Three weeks ago the government was claiming that they didn&#8217;t know how to activate the &#8220;sufficiency economy&#8221; philosophy in policy. Three weeks later they have grandiose all encompassing ideas and policies. They should get a clue. </p>
<p>The sufficiency economy is already there. Rural people can go down to a bookstore learn how to fish farm in their backyard. Ask some neighbors for some advice and presto, enough cash to eat everyday. Pak Bung, it grows wild by the side of the road! People just need to learn to use what they already have better!</p>
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		<title>By: polo</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/01/12/in-sufficient-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-20331</link>
		<dc:creator>polo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Baker&#039;s work qualifies him as a public acadeic or something -- perhaps we need a real term to characterize all scholars, including those not tied to any academy.

But anyway, I think there are more questions to be asked about Inpaeng too, before comparing it&#039;s success with other villages. Here are some:

1. What is the strength of land ownership and tenure there? What is the average family farm size?
2. How much input came from outside with the region chosen as a demonstration model?
3. How are lands being divided among subsequent generations?
4. How much of the mobile phones and TVs and other modcons are paid for by family working in the cities -- that is, what is the role of money transferred inward?
5. With this approach how to you produce people educated enough to run the central bank?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Baker&#8217;s work qualifies him as a public acadeic or something &#8212; perhaps we need a real term to characterize all scholars, including those not tied to any academy.</p>
<p>But anyway, I think there are more questions to be asked about Inpaeng too, before comparing it&#8217;s success with other villages. Here are some:</p>
<p>1. What is the strength of land ownership and tenure there? What is the average family farm size?<br />
2. How much input came from outside with the region chosen as a demonstration model?<br />
3. How are lands being divided among subsequent generations?<br />
4. How much of the mobile phones and TVs and other modcons are paid for by family working in the cities &#8212; that is, what is the role of money transferred inward?<br />
5. With this approach how to you produce people educated enough to run the central bank?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Fernquest</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/01/12/in-sufficient-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-20185</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Fernquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The 30 baht health care scheme...lacked moderation and insight.” 

I witnessed someone in a coma denied oxygen necessary for their continued life unless a lot more than 30 baht was forthcoming. 

Here, as always, transparency is the issue: 30 baht for what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The 30 baht health care scheme&#8230;lacked moderation and insight.” </p>
<p>I witnessed someone in a coma denied oxygen necessary for their continued life unless a lot more than 30 baht was forthcoming. </p>
<p>Here, as always, transparency is the issue: 30 baht for what?</p>
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		<title>By: nganadeeleg</title>
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		<dc:creator>nganadeeleg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 05:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why dont you get personal, anon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why dont you get personal, anon?</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What were you expecting - refereed journal-level analysis?

Chris Baker isn\&#039;t really an academic (he\&#039;s an \&quot;independent research\&quot;, which means that no university will give him tenure), and the Thailand Human Development Report is a palace puff piece to justify the Human Development Lifetime Achievement Award that Kofi Annan gave to the King.  Sounds impressive, doesn\&#039;t it?

Until you ask who else has received this award.... And the answer is: nobody.  It\&#039;s an award created specifically for the king.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What were you expecting &#8211; refereed journal-level analysis?</p>
<p>Chris Baker isn\&#8217;t really an academic (he\&#8217;s an \&#8221;independent research\&#8221;, which means that no university will give him tenure), and the Thailand Human Development Report is a palace puff piece to justify the Human Development Lifetime Achievement Award that Kofi Annan gave to the King.  Sounds impressive, doesn\&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Until you ask who else has received this award&#8230;. And the answer is: nobody.  It\&#8217;s an award created specifically for the king.</p>
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