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		<title>By: Cambodia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gallery of the Dead</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/03/24/995/comment-page-1/#comment-58062</link>
		<dc:creator>Cambodia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gallery of the Dead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by the end of this year, an official announced Wednesday. Deputy Director-General Nguyen ... Comment on Blood and marriage in Cambodia by polo  There is a very small, limited elite - by position, title or money - in Cambodia, and they have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by the end of this year, an official announced Wednesday. Deputy Director-General Nguyen &#8230; Comment on Blood and marriage in Cambodia by polo  There is a very small, limited elite &#8211; by position, title or money &#8211; in Cambodia, and they have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Deathpower in Cambodia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Snifter of Unassociated News Items</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/03/24/995/comment-page-1/#comment-56568</link>
		<dc:creator>Deathpower in Cambodia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Snifter of Unassociated News Items</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blood and marriage in Cambodia (New Mandala)     Posted by Erik Filed in cambodian news [...]</description>
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		<title>By: polo</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/03/24/995/comment-page-1/#comment-55981</link>
		<dc:creator>polo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

The BTS case is not a real nepotism issue, and despite the Post report it is hardly a new story. Kerree Kanjanapas  launched his scheme more than a decade ago as part of his family run business, with the idea that he could flip it on the stock market to get back his own investment and keep control if it to earn whatever more of the profits that he could, including , from the beginning, controlling the advertising by his own private company, and taking advantage of real estate along the route. The banks and other key investors were in trouble on the project from the beginning but had their own little side deals to earn back fees etc, as well as their own real estate projects. Suffice it to say no investor had the public interest first in mind on this project.

This is how family businesses work and probably should work  -- at least until they fail! It is only nepotism to those in the company who are not family and don&#039;t get to be boss. They may be publicly listed but the behavior is nothing strange or unexpected, except perhaps to unwitting investors from the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>The BTS case is not a real nepotism issue, and despite the Post report it is hardly a new story. Kerree Kanjanapas  launched his scheme more than a decade ago as part of his family run business, with the idea that he could flip it on the stock market to get back his own investment and keep control if it to earn whatever more of the profits that he could, including , from the beginning, controlling the advertising by his own private company, and taking advantage of real estate along the route. The banks and other key investors were in trouble on the project from the beginning but had their own little side deals to earn back fees etc, as well as their own real estate projects. Suffice it to say no investor had the public interest first in mind on this project.</p>
<p>This is how family businesses work and probably should work  &#8212; at least until they fail! It is only nepotism to those in the company who are not family and don&#8217;t get to be boss. They may be publicly listed but the behavior is nothing strange or unexpected, except perhaps to unwitting investors from the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Cambodia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dirtbiking with Hidden Cambodia</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/03/24/995/comment-page-1/#comment-55765</link>
		<dc:creator>Cambodia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dirtbiking with Hidden Cambodia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It is an identifiable structure of supposedly vested interests (even though families are as divided within as they are between). I wonder whose interests are at work in the publication of the story. I don t believe it is the Cambodian &#8230; &#8211; more &#8211; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It is an identifiable structure of supposedly vested interests (even though families are as divided within as they are between). I wonder whose interests are at work in the publication of the story. I don t believe it is the Cambodian &#8230; &#8211; more &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Fernquest</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/03/24/995/comment-page-1/#comment-55311</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Fernquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is brilliant.

The hard working people who dug up that info should be applauded. It is ***so systematic*** that words would merely clutter the description.

Nepotism is a very slippery thing and sometimes disappears into its hole as quickly as it emerges, without a trace. 

Take, for instance, the article from the Bangkok Post below (with a little threat of defamation suit kicker, doing honour to Lee Kuan Yew&#039;s innovation). 

The BTS was in bankruptcy proceedings and actually looking further into the situation would have cost the main parties money, so the issue disappeared. But  the seasoned reporter Nuntawun Polkuamdee did a good job of uncovering the facts.

http://www.readbangkokpost.com/economics/corporate_governance/bts_corporate_governance_confl.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is brilliant.</p>
<p>The hard working people who dug up that info should be applauded. It is ***so systematic*** that words would merely clutter the description.</p>
<p>Nepotism is a very slippery thing and sometimes disappears into its hole as quickly as it emerges, without a trace. </p>
<p>Take, for instance, the article from the Bangkok Post below (with a little threat of defamation suit kicker, doing honour to Lee Kuan Yew&#8217;s innovation). </p>
<p>The BTS was in bankruptcy proceedings and actually looking further into the situation would have cost the main parties money, so the issue disappeared. But  the seasoned reporter Nuntawun Polkuamdee did a good job of uncovering the facts.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.readbangkokpost.com/economics/corporate_governance/bts_corporate_governance_confl.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.readbangkokpost.com/economics/corporate_governance/bts_corporate_governance_confl.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: polo</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/03/24/995/comment-page-1/#comment-55300</link>
		<dc:creator>polo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure this is odd or even avoidable. There is a very small, limited elite -- by position, title or money -- in Cambodia, and they have now had stability for a decade or so, long enough to create a &quot;hi-so&quot; and to raise a next generation thinking about advancing the family interest over generations inside the country, rather than just trying to get out (though I doubt they have given up escape routes). 

To this end they have limited choices of who to do business with, whom to call on to get their kids a ministry job, and whom to marry their children to.  Realistically speaking, they are not going to marry far beneath themselves.

Perhaps there is some academic theory on elites and intermarriage in societies which maps out just when the society is advanced enough that the utility of such connections means less than absolute skills  -- which is the case in the US, despite the Bushs etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure this is odd or even avoidable. There is a very small, limited elite &#8212; by position, title or money &#8212; in Cambodia, and they have now had stability for a decade or so, long enough to create a &#8220;hi-so&#8221; and to raise a next generation thinking about advancing the family interest over generations inside the country, rather than just trying to get out (though I doubt they have given up escape routes). </p>
<p>To this end they have limited choices of who to do business with, whom to call on to get their kids a ministry job, and whom to marry their children to.  Realistically speaking, they are not going to marry far beneath themselves.</p>
<p>Perhaps there is some academic theory on elites and intermarriage in societies which maps out just when the society is advanced enough that the utility of such connections means less than absolute skills  &#8212; which is the case in the US, despite the Bushs etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Tosakan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tosakan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saisen-

You obviously don&#039;t know the definition of nepotism.

It means favoring relatives for positions of power.

In your three American examples, there is not one case of nepotism.
In the US, nepotism is against the law, and it has been frownedupon since President Kennedy hired his brother Bob to be attorney general back in the 60&#039;s.

In some cases, congressmen put wives or children on staff.  Guess what?  It becomes a scandal. 

 In Thailand, giving relatives undeserved high positions is a way of life.

George Bush never put a relative into a position of power.

As for Enron and Wal-Mart, those are private businesses.

Private businesses can do what they want.

If we went by your definition of &quot;nepotism&quot; in the business world and it was a crime in Thailand, most of the country would be in breach of the law.

And yes, Southeast Asian countries do have a higher level of nepotism than many other parts of the world.

Off the top of my head, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia, Cambodia, and Thailand are the most egregious practitioners of nepotism.


Where, outside Southeast Asia, is nepotism just as bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saisen-</p>
<p>You obviously don&#8217;t know the definition of nepotism.</p>
<p>It means favoring relatives for positions of power.</p>
<p>In your three American examples, there is not one case of nepotism.<br />
In the US, nepotism is against the law, and it has been frownedupon since President Kennedy hired his brother Bob to be attorney general back in the 60&#8217;s.</p>
<p>In some cases, congressmen put wives or children on staff.  Guess what?  It becomes a scandal. </p>
<p> In Thailand, giving relatives undeserved high positions is a way of life.</p>
<p>George Bush never put a relative into a position of power.</p>
<p>As for Enron and Wal-Mart, those are private businesses.</p>
<p>Private businesses can do what they want.</p>
<p>If we went by your definition of &#8220;nepotism&#8221; in the business world and it was a crime in Thailand, most of the country would be in breach of the law.</p>
<p>And yes, Southeast Asian countries do have a higher level of nepotism than many other parts of the world.</p>
<p>Off the top of my head, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia, Cambodia, and Thailand are the most egregious practitioners of nepotism.</p>
<p>Where, outside Southeast Asia, is nepotism just as bad?</p>
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		<title>By: Saisen</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/03/24/995/comment-page-1/#comment-55048</link>
		<dc:creator>Saisen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 06:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the Bush family, or the Waltons, or Enron. Nepotism is not the domain of the third world elite, nor a unique cultural trait of mainland southeast asia, nor reserved for so-called &#039;weak&#039; states. It is an identifiable structure of supposedly vested interests (even though families are as divided within as they are between). I wonder whose interests are at work in the publication of the story. I don&#039;t believe it is &#039;the Cambodian people&#039; whatever the Daily professes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the Bush family, or the Waltons, or Enron. Nepotism is not the domain of the third world elite, nor a unique cultural trait of mainland southeast asia, nor reserved for so-called &#8216;weak&#8217; states. It is an identifiable structure of supposedly vested interests (even though families are as divided within as they are between). I wonder whose interests are at work in the publication of the story. I don&#8217;t believe it is &#8216;the Cambodian people&#8217; whatever the Daily professes.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could draw the same chart for the Cabinet of Thailand, except it would be much much much larger.  

The Mahidols, Sanitwongs, Issararangkuls, Chulanonts, Kalayanamitrs, Devakulas, Amranands, na Songkhlas, Pibulsonggrams, and Yodmanees are all related, going back at least a hundred years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could draw the same chart for the Cabinet of Thailand, except it would be much much much larger.  </p>
<p>The Mahidols, Sanitwongs, Issararangkuls, Chulanonts, Kalayanamitrs, Devakulas, Amranands, na Songkhlas, Pibulsonggrams, and Yodmanees are all related, going back at least a hundred years.</p>
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