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		<title>By: Nicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Yannawa, I wonder how things would be if you and I switched lives. You&#039;d get some peace and quiet, and I&#039;d get a taste of what you&#039;re going through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Yannawa, I wonder how things would be if you and I switched lives. You&#8217;d get some peace and quiet, and I&#8217;d get a taste of what you&#8217;re going through.</p>
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		<title>By: lil</title>
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		<dc:creator>lil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you dum you murder i hate you how could you do this you should go to jail thats animal abuse what if that was you you would not like it would you that is the worst thing i ever saw in my whole intire life
 you must be really stupid  cause that might be the stupids thing you could ever do your going down with the devel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you dum you murder i hate you how could you do this you should go to jail thats animal abuse what if that was you you would not like it would you that is the worst thing i ever saw in my whole intire life<br />
 you must be really stupid  cause that might be the stupids thing you could ever do your going down with the devel</p>
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		<title>By: Yannawa</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/04/24/lunch/comment-page-1/#comment-657181</link>
		<dc:creator>Yannawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Alex, for your thoughtful and considered response. To paraphrase you, some comments here are full of common sense and some lack any trace of it. Given that you failed to address any of the issues raised by me or others, and rather chose to offer an unqualified medical diagnosis of me, I would suggest your comment falls into the latter category. 
Perhaps I do have a &quot;sick, twisted mind&quot;. It wasn&#039;t always that way. There was a time when I actually kept &quot;pets&quot;, but ten years of living near a pack of hounds that howls in unision for twenty minutes when a butterfly passes, a mongrel toy terrier that yaps at the wheels of anything moving, then pisses on those wheels when they stop, an Alaskan husky, kept in a cage in the heat of Bangkok while whining constantly for the more familiar tundra, and a dozen stray cats that scream day and night during mating rituals anywhere and everywhere, has changed my attitude. 
Yes, a I could be a &quot;dangerous person&quot;. I might be a bus driver who didn&#039;t get proper sleep last night because of animal noise, and in irritation, anger or plain stupidity, I just overtook a truck on the crest of a hill. All my passengers were killed, as was the truck driver. I might be a doctor rostered night shift, but couldn&#039;t rest today because of neighbours&#039; selfish indulgence of &quot;pets&quot;. Sorry, the scalpel slipped. I might be a banker talking on the phone from home, and just lost concentration because Tiddles next door let out a hail of barking as the postman arrived. I made a bad choice, millions of dollars evaporated and many lost their homes. Sure, I&#039;m dangerous indeed, but what made me that way? Noise is not just a nuisance, it is a serious public-health issue. Crap on footpaths and the many viruses that mammals carry are also public-health issues, but noise is the silent killer.
Rest assured Alex, you will probably never have to have anything to do with me and people like me. It is unlikely we will meet at, for example, a &quot;pet&quot; show, which would probably be sponsored by the multi-billion-dollar pet-food industry, or can you believe it, $75-per-night pet hotels while humans are homeless. 
I gather you are like a few of those above who claim to be an &quot;animal lover&quot;. Well that always looks good on your CV, especally when trying to score points to get into an afterlife. I&#039;m a lover of New Zealand cheese and French wine, and those fancies have no impact whatsoever on my neighbours, unlike the indulgences of locals who seek the fast track to heaven by encouraging four-legged filth on or about their premises. I&#039;ve actually heard people refer to the lump of useless meat and fluff on their floor as &quot;part of the family&quot;. I wonder if their other relatives eat their own vomit, root at random in public, drop hair in the video collection, howl all night and defecate where they want.
Oh, and spare me the &quot;man&#039;s best friend&quot; line. I&#039;ve heard that a few times already. Useful on farms, as guides for the blind and in some areas of law-enforcement, otherwise the best place for domestic animals in urban areas is on a menu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alex, for your thoughtful and considered response. To paraphrase you, some comments here are full of common sense and some lack any trace of it. Given that you failed to address any of the issues raised by me or others, and rather chose to offer an unqualified medical diagnosis of me, I would suggest your comment falls into the latter category.<br />
Perhaps I do have a &#8220;sick, twisted mind&#8221;. It wasn&#8217;t always that way. There was a time when I actually kept &#8220;pets&#8221;, but ten years of living near a pack of hounds that howls in unision for twenty minutes when a butterfly passes, a mongrel toy terrier that yaps at the wheels of anything moving, then pisses on those wheels when they stop, an Alaskan husky, kept in a cage in the heat of Bangkok while whining constantly for the more familiar tundra, and a dozen stray cats that scream day and night during mating rituals anywhere and everywhere, has changed my attitude.<br />
Yes, a I could be a &#8220;dangerous person&#8221;. I might be a bus driver who didn&#8217;t get proper sleep last night because of animal noise, and in irritation, anger or plain stupidity, I just overtook a truck on the crest of a hill. All my passengers were killed, as was the truck driver. I might be a doctor rostered night shift, but couldn&#8217;t rest today because of neighbours&#8217; selfish indulgence of &#8220;pets&#8221;. Sorry, the scalpel slipped. I might be a banker talking on the phone from home, and just lost concentration because Tiddles next door let out a hail of barking as the postman arrived. I made a bad choice, millions of dollars evaporated and many lost their homes. Sure, I&#8217;m dangerous indeed, but what made me that way? Noise is not just a nuisance, it is a serious public-health issue. Crap on footpaths and the many viruses that mammals carry are also public-health issues, but noise is the silent killer.<br />
Rest assured Alex, you will probably never have to have anything to do with me and people like me. It is unlikely we will meet at, for example, a &#8220;pet&#8221; show, which would probably be sponsored by the multi-billion-dollar pet-food industry, or can you believe it, $75-per-night pet hotels while humans are homeless.<br />
I gather you are like a few of those above who claim to be an &#8220;animal lover&#8221;. Well that always looks good on your CV, especally when trying to score points to get into an afterlife. I&#8217;m a lover of New Zealand cheese and French wine, and those fancies have no impact whatsoever on my neighbours, unlike the indulgences of locals who seek the fast track to heaven by encouraging four-legged filth on or about their premises. I&#8217;ve actually heard people refer to the lump of useless meat and fluff on their floor as &#8220;part of the family&#8221;. I wonder if their other relatives eat their own vomit, root at random in public, drop hair in the video collection, howl all night and defecate where they want.<br />
Oh, and spare me the &#8220;man&#8217;s best friend&#8221; line. I&#8217;ve heard that a few times already. Useful on farms, as guides for the blind and in some areas of law-enforcement, otherwise the best place for domestic animals in urban areas is on a menu.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yannawa, I read many comments here. Some were good, some were bad, others were so-so. There were ignorant comments and rather enlightening ones. There were comments full of common sense and some that lacked any trace of it. Yours, Yannawa, simply tells us of a sick, twisted mind. A dangerous person. I hope I&#039;ll never have anything to do with you and people like you, Yannawa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yannawa, I read many comments here. Some were good, some were bad, others were so-so. There were ignorant comments and rather enlightening ones. There were comments full of common sense and some that lacked any trace of it. Yours, Yannawa, simply tells us of a sick, twisted mind. A dangerous person. I hope I&#8217;ll never have anything to do with you and people like you, Yannawa.</p>
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		<title>By: Yannawa</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/04/24/lunch/comment-page-1/#comment-655334</link>
		<dc:creator>Yannawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the picture was of the local canine filth in my area in central Bangkok, that howls all night, barks all day and shits whenever they like, I wouldn&#039;t bother to piss on them even if they were being boiled.
Self-confessed dog (and cat) lovers are welcome to keep animals on their own premises. They can keep giraffes and hippos for all I care, but a serious offence is committed when their decision to embrace things with fur affects others, as so often happens. 
The disgusting noise from neighbours&#039; animal trash (known in some circles as &quot;pets&quot;) that disturbs my sleep, prevents my use of the telephone and interrupts my work at home should be regarded as a form of assault, and punished accordingly. Fry them, boil them or bake them. I don&#039;t care -- just get their wretched day-and-night noise out of my bedroom, living room and home-office. 
There is no place in the suburbs for things with brains the size of a plum that creep round on four legs, eating their own shit and rooting each other. The human morons that feed the strays are little better, as they look over their shoulder to make sure that a god is watching their &quot;good deeds&quot;.
 If you want animals, go live on a farm, or visit a zoo. Do not expect my enthusiasm for your indulgence in &quot;pets&quot; to match yours, just because you think the never-ending barking of Sookums or the night-time wailing of Cutie-kittie might appeal to me as much as it does to you.
At least eating this urban refuse, as in the picture,  makes them slightly useful, and countries that encourage the practice are taking a realistic approach to the scourge of so-called domestic animals in areas designed for humans only. If cats and dogs cannot be slaughtered in a way that makes them presentable to restaurants, just bash them with a cricket bat and leave the meat on the road, for other &quot;pets&quot; to come along and enjoy. It won&#039;t take long for the blood and guts to be lapped up.
Spare taxpayers the price of the bullet that they really deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the picture was of the local canine filth in my area in central Bangkok, that howls all night, barks all day and shits whenever they like, I wouldn&#8217;t bother to piss on them even if they were being boiled.<br />
Self-confessed dog (and cat) lovers are welcome to keep animals on their own premises. They can keep giraffes and hippos for all I care, but a serious offence is committed when their decision to embrace things with fur affects others, as so often happens.<br />
The disgusting noise from neighbours&#8217; animal trash (known in some circles as &#8220;pets&#8221;) that disturbs my sleep, prevents my use of the telephone and interrupts my work at home should be regarded as a form of assault, and punished accordingly. Fry them, boil them or bake them. I don&#8217;t care &#8212; just get their wretched day-and-night noise out of my bedroom, living room and home-office.<br />
There is no place in the suburbs for things with brains the size of a plum that creep round on four legs, eating their own shit and rooting each other. The human morons that feed the strays are little better, as they look over their shoulder to make sure that a god is watching their &#8220;good deeds&#8221;.<br />
 If you want animals, go live on a farm, or visit a zoo. Do not expect my enthusiasm for your indulgence in &#8220;pets&#8221; to match yours, just because you think the never-ending barking of Sookums or the night-time wailing of Cutie-kittie might appeal to me as much as it does to you.<br />
At least eating this urban refuse, as in the picture,  makes them slightly useful, and countries that encourage the practice are taking a realistic approach to the scourge of so-called domestic animals in areas designed for humans only. If cats and dogs cannot be slaughtered in a way that makes them presentable to restaurants, just bash them with a cricket bat and leave the meat on the road, for other &#8220;pets&#8221; to come along and enjoy. It won&#8217;t take long for the blood and guts to be lapped up.<br />
Spare taxpayers the price of the bullet that they really deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: New Mandala turns 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Mandala turns 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Most offensive to middle America - Lunch? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vichai N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vichai N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 02:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A city in Belgium, (is it Ghent?), has recently mandated to go Vegetarian, the whole city, for one day a week.

In Manila, I recall an old friend telling me, that dogs had disappeared decades ago.  Dogs and stray dogs particularly, it became apparent, were the favorite staple of the Filipino poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A city in Belgium, (is it Ghent?), has recently mandated to go Vegetarian, the whole city, for one day a week.</p>
<p>In Manila, I recall an old friend telling me, that dogs had disappeared decades ago.  Dogs and stray dogs particularly, it became apparent, were the favorite staple of the Filipino poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Dalton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t really need to eat meat at all. Its much easier to capture and kill a vegetable than any animal. North America would be 99.9% vegetarian if we had to slaughter our own meat products! Its too bad people are such slaves to their taste buds. How about a little self control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t really need to eat meat at all. Its much easier to capture and kill a vegetable than any animal. North America would be 99.9% vegetarian if we had to slaughter our own meat products! Its too bad people are such slaves to their taste buds. How about a little self control.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t offend me that people eat dogs and cats, any more than it offends me for them to eat cows, and pigs (which they eat in my country). I honor and feel respect for vegetarians.
The great issue of concern is the torturing of the animals. Debate is good, because it promotes thought, possibly leading to action. Just remember that the ultimate objective for this and any issue, is results. While speaking out against cruelty and torturing of animals, be sure to add exactly what the readers/listeners can do about it. (Try to add at least one non-financial option for those who can&#039;t afford.) And make sure that your information on the subject is accurate, and any instructions, if followed, are or can be effective, at least in some degree. In other words, do your research from reliable sources. (I&#039;m sorry I don&#039;t, myself, know of any specific suggestions of what to do about this.)
Also, think of any given country/place as you would your own. Different people in that country believe different from each other. Be careful not to judge as a whole...
And if you, yourself, are intentionally contributing to, or allowing the torture or abuse of an animal for any reason, and you have any choice otherwise, please know that you can&#039;t feel the pain they&#039;re in. They can. Torture can be more intensely painful than you can imagine. And even mild abuse can breed fear, distrust and misery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t offend me that people eat dogs and cats, any more than it offends me for them to eat cows, and pigs (which they eat in my country). I honor and feel respect for vegetarians.<br />
The great issue of concern is the torturing of the animals. Debate is good, because it promotes thought, possibly leading to action. Just remember that the ultimate objective for this and any issue, is results. While speaking out against cruelty and torturing of animals, be sure to add exactly what the readers/listeners can do about it. (Try to add at least one non-financial option for those who can&#8217;t afford.) And make sure that your information on the subject is accurate, and any instructions, if followed, are or can be effective, at least in some degree. In other words, do your research from reliable sources. (I&#8217;m sorry I don&#8217;t, myself, know of any specific suggestions of what to do about this.)<br />
Also, think of any given country/place as you would your own. Different people in that country believe different from each other. Be careful not to judge as a whole&#8230;<br />
And if you, yourself, are intentionally contributing to, or allowing the torture or abuse of an animal for any reason, and you have any choice otherwise, please know that you can&#8217;t feel the pain they&#8217;re in. They can. Torture can be more intensely painful than you can imagine. And even mild abuse can breed fear, distrust and misery.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri Lee and Jeewon Chon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuri Lee and Jeewon Chon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my goodness. this is horrible.
i myself am asian but i HATE how some asians eat cats and dogs
once on tv there was this dog caught in a trap somewhere in korea and there was a wire stuck around its neck it was HORRIBLE. some people found him and saved him..
                  JUST EAT COW INSTEAD GUYS.
without torture.
by the way, ive never seen asian food with dog/cat in it. so not all asian food is bad kay?

-yuri


wow
this is the most disgusting thing i have ever seen in my whole life. what if someone got you, and tortured you until you died, and then cooked you, and just ATE you??? seriously. they have feelings toooooooooo........
gosh.i hate dog/cat eaters.
                  -jeewon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my goodness. this is horrible.<br />
i myself am asian but i HATE how some asians eat cats and dogs<br />
once on tv there was this dog caught in a trap somewhere in korea and there was a wire stuck around its neck it was HORRIBLE. some people found him and saved him..<br />
                  JUST EAT COW INSTEAD GUYS.<br />
without torture.<br />
by the way, ive never seen asian food with dog/cat in it. so not all asian food is bad kay?</p>
<p>-yuri</p>
<p>wow<br />
this is the most disgusting thing i have ever seen in my whole life. what if someone got you, and tortured you until you died, and then cooked you, and just ATE you??? seriously. they have feelings toooooooooo&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
gosh.i hate dog/cat eaters.<br />
                  -jeewon</p>
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