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		<title>By: Srithanonchai</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/07/08/national-jaundice/comment-page-1/#comment-125693</link>
		<dc:creator>Srithanonchai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thai Rath/Manager: For an example of what sort of bizarrely nonsensical form this ideological complex can assume in the Thai public discourse, see http://bangkokpundit.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thai Rath/Manager: For an example of what sort of bizarrely nonsensical form this ideological complex can assume in the Thai public discourse, see <a href="http://bangkokpundit.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://bangkokpundit.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whether it is by force or sheer respect, we should credit the thais  for their patriotism at least when it comes to wearing yellow and what it represents. in a thai night in durham, 40 or so thai students wore that ubiquituous royal yellow. i also saw a group of thai tourists in hoi an, vietnam all in yellow early this year. then another group in ha long bay. to say that group pressure forces thais to wear the shirt is, i think, too much. we would have to give ordinary thais some trust on their judgment on this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whether it is by force or sheer respect, we should credit the thais  for their patriotism at least when it comes to wearing yellow and what it represents. in a thai night in durham, 40 or so thai students wore that ubiquituous royal yellow. i also saw a group of thai tourists in hoi an, vietnam all in yellow early this year. then another group in ha long bay. to say that group pressure forces thais to wear the shirt is, i think, too much. we would have to give ordinary thais some trust on their judgment on this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Historicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vichai (19): As I said, I thought you read postings carefully. I said I was in a cinema where this happened. You should be able to read that in my posting. Clear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vichai (19): As I said, I thought you read postings carefully. I said I was in a cinema where this happened. You should be able to read that in my posting. Clear?</p>
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		<title>By: jeru</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is mainly economics.  

At least that is how my girlfriend explained it to me how this &#039;yellow uniform culture&#039; grew in her architectural firm (Australian).  She said at about November last year, the office workers just sort of started wearing yellow nearly daily on their own volition, copying the growing yellow phenomenon in  government &amp; private companies.  My GF said that the Thai women employees particularly like the yellow unitorm daily . . saves them money because now they don&#039;t have to wear fashion and chic clothes in the offices.  The farang bosses did not like it and right after the King&#039;s celebrations, started asking the employees to only wear yellow Mondays.  At least in her office, there are less office employees wearing yellow every Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is mainly economics.  </p>
<p>At least that is how my girlfriend explained it to me how this &#8216;yellow uniform culture&#8217; grew in her architectural firm (Australian).  She said at about November last year, the office workers just sort of started wearing yellow nearly daily on their own volition, copying the growing yellow phenomenon in  government &amp; private companies.  My GF said that the Thai women employees particularly like the yellow unitorm daily . . saves them money because now they don&#8217;t have to wear fashion and chic clothes in the offices.  The farang bosses did not like it and right after the King&#8217;s celebrations, started asking the employees to only wear yellow Mondays.  At least in her office, there are less office employees wearing yellow every Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: saraburian</title>
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		<dc:creator>saraburian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my way to work on Monday I notice that more than 90% of people on the bus wear yellow. If you get on BTS, the number come down to about 60-70%. Not sure how this can be interpreted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my way to work on Monday I notice that more than 90% of people on the bus wear yellow. If you get on BTS, the number come down to about 60-70%. Not sure how this can be interpreted.</p>
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		<title>By: Kulap</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/07/08/national-jaundice/comment-page-1/#comment-122486</link>
		<dc:creator>Kulap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody&#039;s mentioned that  it&#039;s easier for women to get a free pass than men. Well, in government agencies they don&#039;t, but  in private companies they do. No matter what the shade, it&#039;s a godawful color. Men can get away with a yellow tie and then, after work, take it off. 

In some very large foreign companies, if men forget on Mondays, the boss will make some joking remark. You don&#039;t have to don something yellow, but it&#039;s a reminder not to do it again.

A friend of a friend is a rather simple country boy. Orphaned, dirt poor, but somehow with some luck and foreign friends, he and his brother now have their own store. I don&#039;t think he has any interest in politics or the king, one way or another. He just thinks wearing yellow is stupid. He gets asked all the time on Monday why he isn&#039;t wearing yellow. He got asked on other days of the week some months ago.

He&#039;s got a stock response: &quot;Oh, I carry the king in my heart.&quot;  He says that he can do it because he has his own business but he couldn&#039;t get away with it if he worked for the government or a company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody&#8217;s mentioned that  it&#8217;s easier for women to get a free pass than men. Well, in government agencies they don&#8217;t, but  in private companies they do. No matter what the shade, it&#8217;s a godawful color. Men can get away with a yellow tie and then, after work, take it off. </p>
<p>In some very large foreign companies, if men forget on Mondays, the boss will make some joking remark. You don&#8217;t have to don something yellow, but it&#8217;s a reminder not to do it again.</p>
<p>A friend of a friend is a rather simple country boy. Orphaned, dirt poor, but somehow with some luck and foreign friends, he and his brother now have their own store. I don&#8217;t think he has any interest in politics or the king, one way or another. He just thinks wearing yellow is stupid. He gets asked all the time on Monday why he isn&#8217;t wearing yellow. He got asked on other days of the week some months ago.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s got a stock response: &#8220;Oh, I carry the king in my heart.&#8221;  He says that he can do it because he has his own business but he couldn&#8217;t get away with it if he worked for the government or a company.</p>
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		<title>By: Grasshopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grasshopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dearest Vichai, as it seems I cannot out-ponce you; I must simply say: whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest Vichai, as it seems I cannot out-ponce you; I must simply say: whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: jonfernquest</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/07/08/national-jaundice/comment-page-1/#comment-122327</link>
		<dc:creator>jonfernquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mr Fernquest is no expert on “what we do in villages” I’m sure, for I have been to a few villages lately&quot;

Just because I&#039;m a Farang doesn&#039;t mean I haven&#039;t lived in Thai villages and know what people do in some, but not all, Thai villages. Gossip pretty much ensures you learn the whole history of a village good and bad whether you want to or not.

We have a house in a Thai village land my mother-in-law has a house in another Thai village. I haven&#039;t taken a statistical survey of villages. Neither have you. We both draw on our limited experience in the villages we live in.

&quot;Coercive&quot; is a word that could apply to a lot of things in village life and **it was this way during the Thaksin era and before.**

Do I like this? No. Do I see the Thai system as generally an effective one that works? Yes. **I have also lived in a lot more dysfunctional places than you will ever live in**, like Burma, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mr Fernquest is no expert on “what we do in villages” I’m sure, for I have been to a few villages lately&#8221;</p>
<p>Just because I&#8217;m a Farang doesn&#8217;t mean I haven&#8217;t lived in Thai villages and know what people do in some, but not all, Thai villages. Gossip pretty much ensures you learn the whole history of a village good and bad whether you want to or not.</p>
<p>We have a house in a Thai village land my mother-in-law has a house in another Thai village. I haven&#8217;t taken a statistical survey of villages. Neither have you. We both draw on our limited experience in the villages we live in.</p>
<p>&#8220;Coercive&#8221; is a word that could apply to a lot of things in village life and **it was this way during the Thaksin era and before.**</p>
<p>Do I like this? No. Do I see the Thai system as generally an effective one that works? Yes. **I have also lived in a lot more dysfunctional places than you will ever live in**, like Burma, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting how colour became an emblem (or at least symptomatic) of harmony or discord, fight or retreat, and health or ill health. I am reminded of Cory Aquino&#039;s yellow revolution which turned the yellow in the &quot;tie a yellow ribbon&quot; on-some-tree song into an emblem of struggle/fight against an oppressive regime. Then later, yellow became her official fashion colour. I can imagine seeing her in a yellow casket in not too distant future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting how colour became an emblem (or at least symptomatic) of harmony or discord, fight or retreat, and health or ill health. I am reminded of Cory Aquino&#8217;s yellow revolution which turned the yellow in the &#8220;tie a yellow ribbon&#8221; on-some-tree song into an emblem of struggle/fight against an oppressive regime. Then later, yellow became her official fashion colour. I can imagine seeing her in a yellow casket in not too distant future!</p>
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		<title>By: Vichai N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vichai N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When do grasshoppers morph to be locusts  . . to swarm and infestate and consume everything in sight, whether they be green, red and yes YELLOW!

i don&#039;t know if you realize Grasshopper how imbecillic your #19 poster sounds.  Color yellow traditionally meaning sickness to the farangs??? Surely Grasshopper you jest or you hallucinate!
Yellow is sunshine, yellow is gold and yellow to a yankee can be used to denigrate a coward.

Let&#039;s take Thaksin . . . I could easily call him yellow for refusing to face the courts and face his accusers while during his rule he cowardly allowed the cold blooded murder of thousands by his extrajudicial edict against very poor blacklisted village suspects!

I would also think yellow may take a more romantic theme to the die-hard red-shirts waiting for the return of their Thaksin with a Tony Orlando song: &quot;

I&#039;m coming home I&#039;ve done my time (not yet but may soon happen) . . . .  Tie a yellow riboon on all Suvarnabhumi trees and poles . . . et al  (I forgot the lyrics, sorry!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When do grasshoppers morph to be locusts  . . to swarm and infestate and consume everything in sight, whether they be green, red and yes YELLOW!</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t know if you realize Grasshopper how imbecillic your #19 poster sounds.  Color yellow traditionally meaning sickness to the farangs??? Surely Grasshopper you jest or you hallucinate!<br />
Yellow is sunshine, yellow is gold and yellow to a yankee can be used to denigrate a coward.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take Thaksin . . . I could easily call him yellow for refusing to face the courts and face his accusers while during his rule he cowardly allowed the cold blooded murder of thousands by his extrajudicial edict against very poor blacklisted village suspects!</p>
<p>I would also think yellow may take a more romantic theme to the die-hard red-shirts waiting for the return of their Thaksin with a Tony Orlando song: &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m coming home I&#8217;ve done my time (not yet but may soon happen) . . . .  Tie a yellow riboon on all Suvarnabhumi trees and poles . . . et al  (I forgot the lyrics, sorry!)</p>
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