Comments on: Mangrais of Kengtung http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/07/mangrais-of-kengtung/ New perspectives on mainland Southeast Asia Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:26 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Khai http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/07/mangrais-of-kengtung/comment-page-1/#comment-136383 Khai Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:05:38 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/07/mangrais-of-kengtung/#comment-136383 Write to me for info on Sao Saimong and G. H. Luce correspondence. Write to me for info on Sao Saimong and G. H. Luce correspondence.

]]> By: jonfernquest http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/07/mangrais-of-kengtung/comment-page-1/#comment-136148 jonfernquest Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:57:35 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/07/mangrais-of-kengtung/#comment-136148 Thanks for the link. And the biography of Sao Sāimöng Mangrāi would not be complete without the letters he exchanged with Luce in the 1950s which he asks for advice on studying Shan history which may actually have inspired Luce to write his two papers on Syam in JSS (or vice versa). I wonder whether Sao Sāimöng Mangrāi papers are stored in a library collection somewhere. Someone told me they were lost. Bibliographical entries from my paper for the letters: Luce, Gordon Hannington (1957). Letter to Sao Saimong Mangrai, extracts are given in (Mangrai, 1965), cited in (Witthayasakphan, 2001c). [Written in response to a letter written to Luce in August 1957 asking for advice on writing a history of the Shan States] Mangrai, Sao Saimong (1965). The Shan States and the British Annexation. Data Paper No. 57 Southeast Asia Program, Cornell University. P.S. the index to Scott's Shan manuscripts at Cambridge are supposedly available online now. Does anyone have an URL? It's frustrating to use Scott's Gazetteer and Elias from the 19th century as secondhand sources for the Hsenwi and Mong Mao chronicles. Does anyone know where the manuscripts are or whether they will be published in the future? Thanks for the link.

And the biography of Sao Sāimöng Mangrāi would not be complete without the letters he exchanged with Luce in the 1950s which he asks for advice on studying Shan history which may actually have inspired Luce to write his two papers on Syam in JSS (or vice versa).

I wonder whether Sao Sāimöng Mangrāi papers are stored in a library collection somewhere. Someone told me they were lost. Bibliographical entries from my paper for the letters:

Luce, Gordon Hannington (1957). Letter to Sao Saimong Mangrai, extracts are given in (Mangrai, 1965), cited in (Witthayasakphan, 2001c). [Written in response to a letter written to Luce in August 1957 asking for advice on writing a history of the Shan States]

Mangrai, Sao Saimong (1965). The Shan States and the British Annexation. Data Paper No. 57 Southeast Asia Program, Cornell University.

P.S. the index to Scott’s Shan manuscripts at Cambridge are supposedly available online now. Does anyone have an URL?

It’s frustrating to use Scott’s Gazetteer and Elias from the 19th century as secondhand sources for the Hsenwi and Mong Mao chronicles. Does anyone know where the manuscripts are or whether they will be published in the future?

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