Comments on: The constitutional count http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/ New perspectives on mainland Southeast Asia Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:39:39 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mariner http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-145386 Mariner Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:01:57 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-145386 Thank God for New Mandala! With the Bangkok Post (in particular) and the Nation simply too gutless to engage in objective political reporting I look to this website for authoritative news. It would be nice to contribute to the ongoing discussions but quite honestly I can't risk deportation -for the moment, anyway. HB Thank God for New Mandala! With the Bangkok Post (in particular) and the Nation simply too gutless to engage in objective political reporting I look to this website for authoritative news. It would be nice to contribute to the ongoing discussions but quite honestly I can’t risk deportation -for the moment, anyway.

HB

]]> By: Military Admirer http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-144657 Military Admirer Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:23:57 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-144657 Jeru, you just don't want to understand. I am not a Thaksin admirer. The point has to do with fairness and the role of the military. Jeru, you just don’t want to understand. I am not a Thaksin admirer. The point has to do with fairness and the role of the military.

]]> By: jeru http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-144570 jeru Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:15:07 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-144570 Military Admirer pines for yesteryears of past Thaksin glories (and honest mistakes?) but yesterday's votes convincingly thumbed down as Thaksin infamies. Did I miss a point? But I guess Military Admirer do not know how to count. By anybody's counting fingers and toes, it was a LANDSLIDE defeat for Thaksin, and, for the TRT reds. Military Admirer pines for yesteryears of past Thaksin glories (and honest mistakes?) but yesterday’s votes convincingly thumbed down as Thaksin infamies.

Did I miss a point? But I guess Military Admirer do not know how to count. By anybody’s counting fingers and toes, it was a LANDSLIDE defeat for Thaksin, and, for the TRT reds.

]]> By: Military Admirer http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-144525 Military Admirer Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:11:29 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-144525 As usual Jeru misses the point/s. Let's see if the military exit; highly doubtful. That this vote counts and earlier votes with larger turnouts somehow didn't is and amazing contortion. As usual Jeru misses the point/s. Let’s see if the military exit; highly doubtful. That this vote counts and earlier votes with larger turnouts somehow didn’t is and amazing contortion.

]]> By: ThaiBloke http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-144411 ThaiBloke Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:37:31 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-144411 The country has never been split so obviously. The new government needs very quickly to get its checkbook out and start developing something in the countryside. Schools, roads, hospitals all need to be built in the NE and the South. There should be massive tax breaks for business in Isaan and the south, and a few of the Bangkok big wigs should go there and plant rice for a season or two just to see how dire life up there can be. Then they should start working together with Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos and Malaysia to get the damn duties down so that these regions can start becoming export bases with trade between these countries but with export bases in Isaan and the South not just peppered around Bangkok. Thank god the PM term is only limited to 8 years, although this might simply mean that people try to fill their pockets that much quicker. The country has never been split so obviously. The new government needs very quickly to get its checkbook out and start developing something in the countryside. Schools, roads, hospitals all need to be built in the NE and the South.

There should be massive tax breaks for business in Isaan and the south, and a few of the Bangkok big wigs should go there and plant rice for a season or two just to see how dire life up there can be. Then they should start working together with Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos and Malaysia to get the damn duties down so that these regions can start becoming export bases with trade between these countries but with export bases in Isaan and the South not just peppered around Bangkok.

Thank god the PM term is only limited to 8 years, although this might simply mean that people try to fill their pockets that much quicker.

]]> By: nganadeeleg http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-144345 nganadeeleg Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:21:53 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-144345 Now it's business as usual, but look on the bright side: - Thaksin is gone, but his policies are not forgotten (ignore at your peril) - Samak or Chavalit for PM? (pity the PM's term is limited to 8 years) Now it’s business as usual, but look on the bright side:
- Thaksin is gone, but his policies are not forgotten (ignore at your peril)
- Samak or Chavalit for PM? (pity the PM’s term is limited to 8 years)

]]> By: Military Admirer http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-144334 Military Admirer Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:56:00 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-144334 By the way, the "spin" is already being put in place. The Nation's editorial says: "The outcome of the referendum did not put an end to the polarisation of Thai politics, which is split between the urban middle class and the rural poor. Although the majority of people in this country voted for the promulgation of the constitution drawn up by the military-appointed Constitution Drafting Assembly and passed by the National Legislative Assembly, it will take time to achieve normalisation of the political process." This is dumb. Many urban people voted against the constitution and only 14 million of 45 million voted for the constitution. But, heck, what does that matter to the military-loving Nation editors. By the way, the “spin” is already being put in place. The Nation’s editorial says: “The outcome of the referendum did not put an end to the polarisation of Thai politics, which is split between the urban middle class and the rural poor. Although the majority of people in this country voted for the promulgation of the constitution drawn up by the military-appointed Constitution Drafting Assembly and passed by the National Legislative Assembly, it will take time to achieve normalisation of the political process.” This is dumb. Many urban people voted against the constitution and only 14 million of 45 million voted for the constitution. But, heck, what does that matter to the military-loving Nation editors.

]]> By: jeru http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-144320 jeru Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:28:33 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-144320 Military Admirer is bitter when he should have rejoiced at the Manchester City win vs. United. Military Admirer too should have rejoiced that the ballot was able to decide how the junta should exit . . . orderly for the generals to fade away. If Military Admirer wishes to count the 'no shows' as Thaksinites, ok and with the wish that with your new recount, your bitterness will be diminished. The VOTE has spoken and the VOTE did not speak well of Thaksin. Military Admirer is bitter when he should have rejoiced at the Manchester City win vs. United.

Military Admirer too should have rejoiced that the ballot was able to decide how the junta should exit . . . orderly for the generals to fade away.

If Military Admirer wishes to count the ‘no shows’ as Thaksinites, ok and with the wish that with your new recount, your bitterness will be diminished.

The VOTE has spoken and the VOTE did not speak well of Thaksin.

]]> By: Military Admirer http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-144164 Military Admirer Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:55:02 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-144164 Jeru, it is great to see you making the best of a bad outcome for the military you seem to love and obey. So all of those no voters and those who didn't bother to even show up count for nothing! And, they were all Thaksin supporters in your binary world. What monumental arrogance and blindness. I am betting that you'll now be saddling up to support your military generals as they seek to take more extreme measures to ensure a particular outcome on the election. And that will be justified by this result; got to keep all them Thaksinites under control! Jeru, it is great to see you making the best of a bad outcome for the military you seem to love and obey. So all of those no voters and those who didn’t bother to even show up count for nothing! And, they were all Thaksin supporters in your binary world. What monumental arrogance and blindness. I am betting that you’ll now be saddling up to support your military generals as they seek to take more extreme measures to ensure a particular outcome on the election. And that will be justified by this result; got to keep all them Thaksinites under control!

]]> By: david w http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/comment-page-1/#comment-144130 david w Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:52:57 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2007/08/19/the-constitutional-count/#comment-144130 Jeru, Looking at the site posted in comment #1, I find it hard to see how the No vote lost big in the North. The Yes vote didn't win by a large margin there at all, as the count stands at the moment. The Yes vote won by a huge margin in the South, obviously and a 2-1 margin in the Central region. As the vote stands right now. Jeru,

Looking at the site posted in comment #1, I find it hard to see how the No vote lost big in the North. The Yes vote didn’t win by a large margin there at all, as the count stands at the moment. The Yes vote won by a huge margin in the South, obviously and a 2-1 margin in the Central region. As the vote stands right now.

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