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Justin Wintle’s response to Robert Taylor

November 12th, 2007 by Justin Wintle, Guest Contributor · 6 Comments

I write with regard to New Mandala’s interview with Professor Robert  [H.] Taylor, dated November 7th and posted on the Internet.

Professor Taylor says apropos Perfect Hostage, my biography of Aung San Suu  Kyi, that it is ‘badly flawed’. Naturally I wish to counter this prejudicial allegation. Before so doing, however, I would point out areas of overlap between Professor Taylor and myself. Like him, though for perhaps different reasons, I  am sceptical about sanctions as applied by the Western camp against Burma /  Myanmar. I have no objection to sanctions in principle — they are instruments  of policy that can have both positive and negative effects –  but the blunt truth is that apropos Burma / Myanmar they haven’t worked, nor can they without the close but improbable co-operation of China, India, ASEAN and maybe Russia. Even then. there would be problems with rogue trading patterns in that  neck of the global wood. And when something fails it makes sense to at  least contemplate an alternative tack.

I also broadly agree with Taylor’s assessment of Premier Oil, having met some of the individuals involved.

The field of Burmese studies and commentary is (to put it mildly)  notoriously fractious. No two individuals will be found who agree on all points,  just  as no two individuals will disagree about everything. Too often, however,  the upshot of disagreement, healthy in itself, becomes venomous in the extreme.

Professor Taylor recalls three meetings with myself, ‘each of which [was]  in a bar and he did not take notes or, to the best of my knowledge, record our conversation.’ That is not my recollection. We have had only two meaningful conversations, the first at his London club, the second at mine. There has in addition been a limited exchange of e-mails. On the first occasion I had a notepad at the ready, but did not take many notes, since Taylor was (and remained) reticent about his encounters with Aung San Suu Kyi, for whatever reason.  This was over a cup of tea, nothing stronger. We did however repair to a nearby pub in St James’s immediately afterwards. There we discovered a mutual penchant for fantasy operas, and an entertaining conversation ensued. Taylor’s   opera was to be set on the shores of Rangoon’s (Yangon’s) Inya Lake, while mine resorted to the Potala in Lhasa. (Oh yeah — in the closing scene of my opera a  chorus of Tibetan llamas magically transform into a troupe of Chinese acrobats….)

On the second and equally convivial occasion we met, at the Frontline Club in Paddington. Others were present, and a notepad would have been singularly malapropos. Subsequently, at the same venue, there was a ‘Burma discussion night’, which we both attended, but we did not indulge in any further meaningful, or even meaningless, conversation.

And so to the defence. New Mandala’s well-prepared interviewer (Nicholas Farrelly) offers Taylor two passages from my book for comment and response. The first concerns Aung San Suu Kyi’s SOAS history. Taylor was not forthcoming with me about this, so I had of necessity to depend on other informants. I believe  however I have got that part of Suu Kyi’s career substantially right — and what Professor Taylor now says about it does not contradict the line taken  by myself.  One of my sources was a distinguished member of the SOAS staff.  While I am not  at liberty to publicly divulge his (or her) identity, should Professor Taylor care to ring me (he has my number) then I will happily talk to  him on a basis of  complete confidentiality.

The second passage from Perfect Hostage lobbed in Professor Taylor’s direction by Mr Farrelly concerns his well-known and rather humorous remark that, like Elvis Presley, General Aung San (Suu Kyi’s father) made an astute career move by dying young. ‘I would not have been crass enough’, Taylor  asserts, ‘to  say that to his daughter.’ I believe him. But if Professor Taylor reads my text carefully, he will find that I do not write that he made his quip  in  front of Suu Kyi’s face. Rather, she got to hear of it, and (predictably) was not remotely amused.

Where I make factual errors (and in a book of the length and scope of Perfect Hostage there were always bound to be some), then I am always willing to amend my text, as the forthcoming Arrow paperback edition will demonstrate. Some readers usefully queried some details, and details only, and where corrections are in order they have been made — and that is perfectly normal. Professor  Taylor could have done the same, but didn’t I am, however, slightly hesitant to  take his word as gospel when (in the New Mandala interview) by his own admission he acknowledges he is capable of ‘garbled utterances’.

Neither passage cited by Mr Farrelly, however, contains what may be the real trigger to Professor Taylor’s aspersions. In Perfect Hostage Taylor makes a third appearance — understandably overlooked by Mr Farrelly since it occurs in the descriptive bibliography at the end of the book. There, I comment on Taylor’s own publication, The State in Burma. In full: ‘The State in Burma(1987) offers a narrative of the changing structures of government in Burma from the early nineteenth century up until the eve of 1988. A comparison of ”state-building” among other South-East nations might have spared Taylor’s blushes when the meltdown occurred shortly after publication, but the early chapters  are good.’

Word has it Professor Taylor took deep umbrage at this criticism. But I stick by it. His account of the regime instituted by General Ne Win in 1962 is curiously bloodless. One way of assessing the efficacy of ’state-building’ is to enquire as to the benefits (or otherwise) it confers on the civilian population  at large.  Asked to assess, say, a bridge, it is not enough to say it is  a  good bridge simply because it successfully connects one riverbank with its opposite number. If the same bridge regularly deposits some of those crossing  it  into the boiling waters below then in all probability it is not a very good  bridge. In Burma / Myanmar healthcare and educational provision are generally abysmal. In recent years especially there has been a flood of human rights reports condemning the activities of the Burmese military regime. While  some of  these doubtless have a hidden agenda — including the aspirations of some ethnic minority separatists — reports issued by such bodies as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International are hard to argue with, given their rigorous research standards, and the cautiousness of their conclusions. And if  anyone doubts their findings, they should visit Burma / Myanmar to see conditions for themselves (as Professor Taylor does on what appears a very regular basis).

That is not to say that the Tatmadaw (Burmese armed forces) is exclusively responsible for the woes that have engulfed, and continue to engulf, that country — far from it, and another instance where Professor Taylor and I overlap  to some degree. But, reading the whole of this interview, I am
troubled by at least two elements of Taylor’s take on Burma / Myanmar.

Apropos the National Convention — widely perceived as a long drawn-out exercise in appeasing the so-called ‘international community’ — Taylor sails uncomfortably close to the regimist wind. Declining the majority verdict on the Convention as a public relations sham, he tells us that it has offered its participants unique bonding opportunities, through its ‘informal’ discussions. There may be some truth in that, just as there is some truth to the view that some ethnic minority leaders are prepared to accept the outcome of the NC (a constitution that resolutely guarantees the overarching authority of the Tatmadaw) as ‘the best on offer’, and a marginal improvement on the current status quo. But with regard to national cohesion, and by the same token, how much more bonding might have been achieved had the junta accepted the outcome of the 1990 election and enabled a democratically responsive national assembly to convene?

Then there is Taylor on Aung San Suu Kyi herself. While clearly there is no love lost between them, it is disappointing that our amiable and vastly clubbable professor should ungallantly espouse the regimist view that she has been  too ‘confrontational’ for her own or her country’s good.

As it happens, when Aung San’s daughter first appeared on the public stage in August 1988, she bent over backwards to accommodate the Burmese army. ’National reconciliation’ was on her mind and on her lips years before it became  a  commonplace of political discourse. But in the months that followed her  maiden  speeches, she was relentlessly harried and harassed by SLORC (State Law and order Restoration Council, as the junta then called itself), as detailed in   chapters XXIII through XXIX of my book. At Danubyu she narrowly escaped assassination by an impromptu firing squad, before finally being placed under house arrest. To pretend that it was her style, and not the regime’s, that was confrontational is (in my view) an instance of cognitive dissonance run riot.

It is because Professor Taylor indulges in this kind of commentary that he is regarded as a regime apologist in some quarters. Ironically, it is arguable that Aung San Suu Kyi’s insistence on non-violence (which by definition is non-confrontational) has hindered political development in Burma / Myanmar. (On this topic, see my article ‘September of Her Days’ in the current, November issue of the Far Eastern Economic Review.) But when it comes to being ‘badly flawed’, I do seriously wonder whether Taylor arrives at that view of my book because I am not inclined to repeat parrot-fashion allegations made against Aung  San Suu Kyi in the Burmese state media.

Word also has it that among Professor Taylor’s ‘other projects’ is a biography of the dictator General Ne Win. Will Senior General Than Shwe furnish a Preface one wonders? Conceivably Taylor is playing a magnificent long game, preparing a book that will finally take the lid of the inner workings of the Burmese ’state’ and stun us all. On this performance, though, I much doubt  it.

For now I would urge subscribers to New Mandala to read what I have written, and what Professor Taylor has written, and a dozen other books besides, and decide for themselves where the bad flaw lies.

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6 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Suriyon Raiwa // Nov 12, 2007 at 8:59 pm

    Thanks for this, Mr Wintle.

    Your comment, with reference to THE STATE IN BURMA, that the “account of the regime instituted by General Ne Win in 1962 is curiously bloodless” is very much on the mark, and the tone of such a concluding chapter would be curious even if the Socialist Period in Burma had not been a socio-economic failure. When the book first appeared, there were stories in academic circles about Prof Taylor’s having be pressured to add that last chapter, allegedly by his publisher and implicitly against his will. Unclear how accurate those stories were, but your point does make one await the new chapter or chapters due to appear in THE STATE IN MYANMAR with some interest.

    Might I urge you to contribute to New Mandala more often?

  • 2 Grasshopper // Nov 12, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    Justin, Professor Taylor: Shouldn’t this have taken place at Kyauktada long ago in the European Club? The bad flaw is that we are arguing over this while young people in Burma/Myanmar are subjected to histories of essentialist bilge. The bad flaw is that on decolonization in 1948, 11 months later the UDHR was adopted yet there was no responsibility directed toward Britain to leave Burma/Myanmar in a suitable state for issues of identity to be non-existent. The bad flaw is that your fellow Oxonian’s and elites in British society, like Viscount Cranbourne, a shareholder in Premier Oil, have the audacity to preach civilized conduct and the virtues of human rights; yet privately have perpetuated, justified the extortion of the socio-economic futures of people in the Burma/Myanmar region whilst maintaining a neo-colonialist image for the Junta to exploit and extend its monist tentacles.

    But really the most overt bad flaw (because we can take responsibility for it) is that people with considerable vocabularies spend time justifying foreign policy exceptionalism with conceptions of liberal morality conveniently enough to maintain their own status in cosmopolitanism. The very same cosmopolitanism which can pass off any thesis proposal, concerning peoples who are potentially able to take responsibility of their regions future AND perhaps forgive the incredible arrogance of those fore-father colonizers, as simply one of many ‘interesting’ propositions. The only way is engagement, and after the last 20 years of deliberation such as this, we only have ourselves to blame.

    Spend the years of learning squandering
    Courage for the years of wandering
    Through a world politely turning
    From the loutishness of learning

  • 3 Kulap // Nov 14, 2007 at 7:41 am

    What a gasbag.

    I won’t even glance at his book.

  • 4 Burmese Songkok // Nov 14, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    I like it when two white boys argue over who is right and who is wrong in their academic musings. Unlike Prof. Taylor, I can’t even go back to the land of my birth. Instead, I wander around the streets of Bangkok in drunken stupor, daydreaming of going home and ever whispering the words of James Campbell and Reginald Connelly to anyone that will lend an ear:

    “Show me the way to go home
    I’m tired and I want to go to bed
    I had a little drink about an hour ago
    And it got right to my head
    Where ever I may roam
    On land or sea or foam
    You will always hear me singing this song
    Show me the way to go home”

  • 5 Justin Wintle // Nov 15, 2007 at 11:49 am

    Burmese Songkok — my heart goes out to you in your Bangkok wanderings. I cannot nor would not presume to speak for Professor Taylor, but our exchange is a bit more than mere ‘academic musings’ I hope you will allow. Indeed I am not an academic. I write about your country out of genuine concern and anxiety, and just wish I could do more to help. It is important I think, in this era of fast-track globalisation, for people outside Burma to maintain awareness of what goes on inside Burma alive at every opportunity. I am a historian, not an activist, but I know where my sympathies lie, and by expressing my sympathies I hope to have some impact — however minimal — on my own and other governments’ policies. There is I fear no quick fix, but when the military regime does disintegrate, as one day it surely must, then there will be no shortage of willing and modestly informed hands to help repair the damage done to all your people by Than Shwe and his murderous crew. I know compassion from afar is a small thing, but it is compassiomn nonetheless, and a corollary of metta, loving kindness. All this apart, cheers to you for quoting those wonderful lines by Mesrs. Campbell and Connelly. JW

  • 6 Samantha Goat // Nov 16, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    Welcome to the deep dark night of self-imposed ignorance, Kulap!

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