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	<title>Comments on: Time for academic frankness</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Lee</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/01/08/time-for-academic-frankness/comment-page-1/#comment-639448</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, you could always  try the Central Administrative Court, Case # 889/47.  But if they couldn&#039;t/wouldn&#039;t provide me the plaintiff with some details (e.g. the full defence argument by Bowornsak) then I don&#039;t know how much help it will be. 

BTW most Thai friends I have suggested this to have shuddered at the thought of doing this as if (for them, at least) it would be committing career suicide).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, you could always  try the Central Administrative Court, Case # 889/47.  But if they couldn&#8217;t/wouldn&#8217;t provide me the plaintiff with some details (e.g. the full defence argument by Bowornsak) then I don&#8217;t know how much help it will be. </p>
<p>BTW most Thai friends I have suggested this to have shuddered at the thought of doing this as if (for them, at least) it would be committing career suicide).</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Lee</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/01/08/time-for-academic-frankness/comment-page-1/#comment-314051</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Land of Snarls:
No. There is nowhere I know of where you can read about my case because there was a de facto media ban by the government on reporting about it. Hence, local fat cats such as Shawn Crispin followed the likes of Matichon in closing their eyes about a clear and important instance of the Thai judiciary being caught playing politics by invoking the same regulation to both accept my complaint AND reject my case i.e. it suited them to go fishing, not to land any fish. If you contact the Central Administrative Court for details on Case# 889/47 you will either get stonewalled or just the bare bones i.e. no meat. However, I have an email address at one_tuf_hombre@yahoo.com.au  so i may be able to provide some case notes.
BTW: As I come from the same town as Downer and Hicks, the Howard  government went along for the ride too(Downer was in a very shaky electoral seat) , so my career in Australia is screwed too because my colleagues at Flinders University were coerced into not replying to any of my dozens of letters/emails, so no referalls or references for jobs in Oz either.
As Orwell said: &quot;If the party could reach back into the past, and say of this or that event, &#039;It never happened&#039;, how much more terrifying was that than mere death or torture.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Land of Snarls:<br />
No. There is nowhere I know of where you can read about my case because there was a de facto media ban by the government on reporting about it. Hence, local fat cats such as Shawn Crispin followed the likes of Matichon in closing their eyes about a clear and important instance of the Thai judiciary being caught playing politics by invoking the same regulation to both accept my complaint AND reject my case i.e. it suited them to go fishing, not to land any fish. If you contact the Central Administrative Court for details on Case# 889/47 you will either get stonewalled or just the bare bones i.e. no meat. However, I have an email address at <a href="mailto:one_tuf_hombre@yahoo.com.au">one_tuf_hombre@yahoo.com.au</a>  so i may be able to provide some case notes.<br />
BTW: As I come from the same town as Downer and Hicks, the Howard  government went along for the ride too(Downer was in a very shaky electoral seat) , so my career in Australia is screwed too because my colleagues at Flinders University were coerced into not replying to any of my dozens of letters/emails, so no referalls or references for jobs in Oz either.<br />
As Orwell said: &#8220;If the party could reach back into the past, and say of this or that event, &#8216;It never happened&#8217;, how much more terrifying was that than mere death or torture.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Srithanonchai</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/01/08/time-for-academic-frankness/comment-page-1/#comment-311777</link>
		<dc:creator>Srithanonchai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fall: Thanks for the link. Worachet probably is the sharpest mind in the area of public and constitutional law in Thailand right now. Much different from of his legal-political Srithanchai colleagues at Thammasat, such as Somkhit or Suraphol. Hope, Worachet will stay this way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fall: Thanks for the link. Worachet probably is the sharpest mind in the area of public and constitutional law in Thailand right now. Much different from of his legal-political Srithanchai colleagues at Thammasat, such as Somkhit or Suraphol. Hope, Worachet will stay this way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fall</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/01/08/time-for-academic-frankness/comment-page-1/#comment-310241</link>
		<dc:creator>fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little off topic, but I found this interview article (Thai).  
Very good to read whole.

http://www.prachatai.com/05web/th/home/10967</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little off topic, but I found this interview article (Thai).<br />
Very good to read whole.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.prachatai.com/05web/th/home/10967" rel="nofollow">http://www.prachatai.com/05web/th/home/10967</a></p>
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		<title>By: Land of Snarls</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/01/08/time-for-academic-frankness/comment-page-1/#comment-308663</link>
		<dc:creator>Land of Snarls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, Frank Lee - I don&#039;t know the details about your case, but I&#039;m interested. Is there somewhere I can read about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, Frank Lee &#8211; I don&#8217;t know the details about your case, but I&#8217;m interested. Is there somewhere I can read about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Teth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Convenient isn&#039;t it to simply refuse to reply.

An eye for an eye, Frank. I was only applying the same standards that you applied to me. Maybe convincing you isn&#039;t worth the trouble after all, because you&#039;ll simply refuse to see it and just ignore the truth. The truly mature and wise would have replied without further provocation, but you&#039;re not the type, even though you would love to see yourself as one of those wise, all knowing &quot;old hands.&quot;

Once again, get off your high horse because the fall will certainly hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Convenient isn&#8217;t it to simply refuse to reply.</p>
<p>An eye for an eye, Frank. I was only applying the same standards that you applied to me. Maybe convincing you isn&#8217;t worth the trouble after all, because you&#8217;ll simply refuse to see it and just ignore the truth. The truly mature and wise would have replied without further provocation, but you&#8217;re not the type, even though you would love to see yourself as one of those wise, all knowing &#8220;old hands.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once again, get off your high horse because the fall will certainly hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Lee</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/01/08/time-for-academic-frankness/comment-page-1/#comment-305245</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frodo, by the phrase &quot;held this country together&#039;, I assume Reynolds means that there would have been greater bloodshed and violence without such interventions at critical moments - but go ask Craig or read him yourself.  Of course, foreign observers and perhaps Thais nursing a grudge may safely consider the end as justifying the means. Unfortunately, there are always alternative ends, but the powers that be rarely want you to think about that because that makes it so much harder to manipulate public opinion.
PS: As the debate has turned spitefully emotional, any further response to Teth would be pointless until he gets over his temper tantrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frodo, by the phrase &#8220;held this country together&#8217;, I assume Reynolds means that there would have been greater bloodshed and violence without such interventions at critical moments &#8211; but go ask Craig or read him yourself.  Of course, foreign observers and perhaps Thais nursing a grudge may safely consider the end as justifying the means. Unfortunately, there are always alternative ends, but the powers that be rarely want you to think about that because that makes it so much harder to manipulate public opinion.<br />
PS: As the debate has turned spitefully emotional, any further response to Teth would be pointless until he gets over his temper tantrum.</p>
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		<title>By: Sawarin</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/01/08/time-for-academic-frankness/comment-page-1/#comment-302438</link>
		<dc:creator>Sawarin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Genuine questions:

1. How many people attended this conference? Can anyone estimate the &#039;total number&#039; of participants throughout the entire programme for me?

2. Did any Thai paper report on it?

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genuine questions:</p>
<p>1. How many people attended this conference? Can anyone estimate the &#8216;total number&#8217; of participants throughout the entire programme for me?</p>
<p>2. Did any Thai paper report on it?</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bangkok Pundit</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/01/08/time-for-academic-frankness/comment-page-1/#comment-302132</link>
		<dc:creator>Bangkok Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LSS and anyone else: If you are aware of an electronic copy of those papers on the South please post a link to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LSS and anyone else: If you are aware of an electronic copy of those papers on the South please post a link to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Frodo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...the opinion of Craig J. Reynolds re King Bhumipol bear repeating: i.e. the king has held the country together time after time during periods of crisis - or words to that effect...&quot;

I would think this is very unlikely - it sounds more like the opinion of Bhumipol himself. Can anyone who attended confirm whether this is actually true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the opinion of Craig J. Reynolds re King Bhumipol bear repeating: i.e. the king has held the country together time after time during periods of crisis &#8211; or words to that effect&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I would think this is very unlikely &#8211; it sounds more like the opinion of Bhumipol himself. Can anyone who attended confirm whether this is actually true?</p>
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