Comments on: Would you like Tsa Pi with that? http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/ New perspectives on mainland Southeast Asia Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:28:26 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: gamja mirip singpho http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/comment-page-1/#comment-545211 gamja mirip singpho Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:56:23 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/#comment-545211 there are singpho (jingpaw) people here in india to as you know and there are resturent too....ther is one resturent at mergherita assam near borgolai .....you can taste indian singpho crusine there.... there are singpho (jingpaw) people here in india to as you know and there are resturent too….ther is one resturent at mergherita assam near borgolai …..you can taste indian singpho crusine there….

]]> By: Getting googly on Yunnanese food in Beijing http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/comment-page-1/#comment-496281 Getting googly on Yunnanese food in Beijing Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:22:55 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/#comment-496281 [...] But no matter how much we devote ourselves to issues in mainland Southeast Asia we all still need to eat.  And on a day when Gordon Brown is telling those of us in Britain to stop wasting food it seems [...] [...] But no matter how much we devote ourselves to issues in mainland Southeast Asia we all still need to eat.  And on a day when Gordon Brown is telling those of us in Britain to stop wasting food it seems [...]

]]> By: Ja San Ra http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/comment-page-1/#comment-475094 Ja San Ra Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:53:53 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/#comment-475094 yea,we called 'a-tsa' or ' chyaru' for those alcoholic beverage but not 'tsapi'. My pop detests 'chyaru' and 'hka yawm'(cigarette),so there's no chances to see these stuff around his house even in special ocassions. The funny thing is that my grandma (my pop's mom) likes to drink a lot especially kachin rice wine.She always need to play hide and seek with my pop whenever she gotta drink that stuff till now i guess. Matter of fact she's in her 95 years of age now. Thanks to the Lord that she's still as healty as ever.Seems like she doesn't feel any age yet.That's the good one yah. Talking about my grandma, remind me of Kachin rice wine..OOooo that rice wine is just so great.My grandma,my mom and i used to have these rice wine and beef dishes w/o my pop.hahhaha..Have you ever tasted kachin rice wine before?I mean a genuine kachin rice wine tho'. :-P yea,we called ‘a-tsa’ or ‘ chyaru’ for those alcoholic beverage but not ‘tsapi’.
My pop detests ‘chyaru’ and ‘hka yawm’(cigarette),so there’s no chances to see these stuff around his house even in special ocassions.
The funny thing is that my grandma (my pop’s mom) likes to drink a lot especially kachin rice wine.She always need to play hide and seek with my pop whenever she gotta drink that stuff till now i guess.
Matter of fact she’s in her 95 years of age now. Thanks to the Lord that she’s still as healty as ever.Seems like she doesn’t feel any age yet.That’s the good one yah.

Talking about my grandma, remind me of Kachin rice wine..OOooo that rice wine is just so great.My grandma,my mom and i used to have these rice wine and beef dishes w/o my pop.hahhaha..Have you ever tasted kachin rice wine before?I mean a genuine kachin rice wine tho’. :-P

]]> By: Nicholas Farrelly http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/comment-page-1/#comment-453121 Nicholas Farrelly Sun, 18 May 2008 10:58:38 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/#comment-453121 Thanks Ja San Ra, I certainly appreciate your input. And it is interesting that "tsapi" isn't a word you have ever heard used in the Shan State - even for the particularly pungent stuff that does the rounds at festivals, or other special occasions? Happy to hear what your pop has to say, if you wouldn't mind asking. Aiontay and myself, and the other people who hang out on New Mandala with more than a passing interest in these places, are always keen to learn more. Cheers, with hpalap, tsapi, n-tsin, or whatever takes your fancy, Best wishes to all, Nich Thanks Ja San Ra,

I certainly appreciate your input. And it is interesting that “tsapi” isn’t a word you have ever heard used in the Shan State – even for the particularly pungent stuff that does the rounds at festivals, or other special occasions?

Happy to hear what your pop has to say, if you wouldn’t mind asking.

Aiontay and myself, and the other people who hang out on New Mandala with more than a passing interest in these places, are always keen to learn more.

Cheers, with hpalap, tsapi, n-tsin, or whatever takes your fancy,

Best wishes to all,

Nich

]]> By: Ja San Ra http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/comment-page-1/#comment-453114 Ja San Ra Sun, 18 May 2008 10:41:49 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/#comment-453114 Wow,i was amazed by your snap shot.cuz i never knew that there'll be Kachin restaurants in India! We use "n-tsin" or "lu hka" for drinkin' water in Lashio(Shan state,Burma).Frankly sayin' i never ever heard about "tsapi ot tsahku" words in my entire life till now.We just call beer down there.If i ain't wrong,we use different usage in diffrent province yah. FYI:My Pop (he really is a master in Kachin language tho'.any question,i can ask him for ya?) Yea,hpalap hka is my fav drink too...we can say Cheers with hpalap hka instead of Beer.(Lol..) sign off for now. Wow,i was amazed by your snap shot.cuz i never knew that there’ll be Kachin restaurants in India!

We use “n-tsin” or “lu hka” for drinkin’ water in Lashio(Shan state,Burma).Frankly sayin’ i never ever heard about “tsapi ot tsahku” words in my entire life till now.We just call beer down there.If i ain’t wrong,we use different usage in diffrent province yah.
FYI:My Pop (he really is a master in Kachin language tho’.any question,i can ask him for ya?)

Yea,hpalap hka is my fav drink too…we can say Cheers with hpalap hka instead of Beer.(Lol..)
sign off for now.

]]> By: aiontay http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/comment-page-1/#comment-366594 aiontay Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:38:03 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/#comment-366594 The only reason I asked is that I can't find it in my English/Jinghpaw dictionary, which like a lot of those dictionaries isn't exactly the most accurate, and which has a different term listed under "beer". Nobody used "n-tsin" for drinking water? It's kind of cool to look at all the dialect differences, and it really is good that you're able to travel, research, and share this information with us. The only thing better would be if you could bring us a plate of curry with some hpalap (sp?). I'm a tea drinker, not a beer drinker. The only reason I asked is that I can’t find it in my English/Jinghpaw dictionary, which like a lot of those dictionaries isn’t exactly the most accurate, and which has a different term listed under “beer”.
Nobody used “n-tsin” for drinking water? It’s kind of cool to look at all the dialect differences, and it really is good that you’re able to travel, research, and share this information with us.

The only thing better would be if you could bring us a plate of curry with some hpalap (sp?). I’m a tea drinker, not a beer drinker.

]]> By: Nicholas Farrelly http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/comment-page-1/#comment-366189 Nicholas Farrelly Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:50:42 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/#comment-366189 Hi Aiontay, Yes, I think it is the same word. My Myitkyina-sourced Kachin-English dictionary has "tsapi" and "tsahpa" both defined as "native beer". "Tsahku" is "fermented liquor". "Tsa" is simply "liquor, beer or whiskey". All gels pretty closely with the usages I have heard in various Kachin areas (including Arunachal Pradesh). As for water, I think the word in Singpho lands is still "hka", etc. Stephen Morey's Tai and Tibeto-Burman Languages of Assam <a href="http://crcl.th.net/assam/" rel="nofollow">website</a> confirms my gut feeling on the <a href="http://crcl.th.net/assam/search.pl?dir=assam&src=search.pl&aitonText=&phakeText=&khamyangText=&khamtiText=&turungText=&singphoText=hka&ipaTextT=&ipaTextTB=&glossText=&transText=&aiton=on&phake=on&khamyang=on&khamti=on&turung=on&singpho=on" rel="nofollow">water</a> front. I hope the Morey site is helpful. Best wishes to all, Nich Hi Aiontay,

Yes, I think it is the same word. My Myitkyina-sourced Kachin-English dictionary has “tsapi” and “tsahpa” both defined as “native beer”. “Tsahku” is “fermented liquor”. “Tsa” is simply “liquor, beer or whiskey”. All gels pretty closely with the usages I have heard in various Kachin areas (including Arunachal Pradesh). As for water, I think the word in Singpho lands is still “hka”, etc.

Stephen Morey’s Tai and Tibeto-Burman Languages of Assam website confirms my gut feeling on the water front.

I hope the Morey site is helpful.

Best wishes to all,

Nich

]]> By: aiontay http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/comment-page-1/#comment-365966 aiontay Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:31:44 +0000 http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/02/28/would-you-like-tsa-pi-with-that/#comment-365966 Tsa pi? Is that the same word as would be used in Burma? What word do the Singpho use for drinking water? Tsa pi? Is that the same word as would be used in Burma? What word do the Singpho use for drinking water?

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