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	<title>Comments on: Burma&#8217;s draft 2008 constitution</title>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Farrelly</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/04/08/burmas-draft-2008-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-596761</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Farrelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken,

Thanks for following this up.  I don&#039;t have anything but I will chase this up and see if I can find a translation.  If I get a copy I will be sure to post it online.

Cheers,

Nich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken,</p>
<p>Thanks for following this up.  I don&#8217;t have anything but I will chase this up and see if I can find a translation.  If I get a copy I will be sure to post it online.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Nich</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Gallant</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/04/08/burmas-draft-2008-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-596744</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Gallant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nich and all,
Has there ever been a translation (official or otherwise) made available of the final constitution put to the referendum in 2008?
Thanks,
Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nich and all,<br />
Has there ever been a translation (official or otherwise) made available of the final constitution put to the referendum in 2008?<br />
Thanks,<br />
Ken</p>
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		<title>By: kyaw swar</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/04/08/burmas-draft-2008-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-596159</link>
		<dc:creator>kyaw swar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2008 SPDC May constitution are not based from 1947/74 principle and and 45 SELECTED  SPDC&#039;s MEN drafted. 

Now, Public,NLD, all politicians and Citizens are requesting to discuss
(compromise) with 1990 election candidates and citizen.

The con-artist men are approaching to SPDC and taking the rights of
permits, land and business with military.

SPDC also using their power to grant the rights of business with state owned money and resources.

All are watching since 1988 and nothing out come results from 1988 to 2008 for country&#039;s beneficial or devlopment.

Now, military is breaking their several promise since 1988 to hand over the power after 1990 election and defying all opposition groups and arrested all young students and politicians.

We understand the way of Burma is very simple and could be changed within one year if SPDC  have sympthy or resepect the law.

Actually, SPDC expected the CIVIL WAR and they need to destroy
all Political Group by ARM after their dream completed of 2010 election.

So, the public and SPDC must solve their created problem with confrontation status and must solve by NLD and SPDC openly.

We are also not afraid for fighting to SPDC this time and must show our abilities from each channel and each location to fight back to

1. Than Shwe&#039;s Group or brutual men
2. Police Squad
3. USDA or Kyant Phut with murphy
4. SPDC&#039;s families or their business or properties
5. We have decided to show our strength very clearly in Burma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2008 SPDC May constitution are not based from 1947/74 principle and and 45 SELECTED  SPDC&#8217;s MEN drafted. </p>
<p>Now, Public,NLD, all politicians and Citizens are requesting to discuss<br />
(compromise) with 1990 election candidates and citizen.</p>
<p>The con-artist men are approaching to SPDC and taking the rights of<br />
permits, land and business with military.</p>
<p>SPDC also using their power to grant the rights of business with state owned money and resources.</p>
<p>All are watching since 1988 and nothing out come results from 1988 to 2008 for country&#8217;s beneficial or devlopment.</p>
<p>Now, military is breaking their several promise since 1988 to hand over the power after 1990 election and defying all opposition groups and arrested all young students and politicians.</p>
<p>We understand the way of Burma is very simple and could be changed within one year if SPDC  have sympthy or resepect the law.</p>
<p>Actually, SPDC expected the CIVIL WAR and they need to destroy<br />
all Political Group by ARM after their dream completed of 2010 election.</p>
<p>So, the public and SPDC must solve their created problem with confrontation status and must solve by NLD and SPDC openly.</p>
<p>We are also not afraid for fighting to SPDC this time and must show our abilities from each channel and each location to fight back to</p>
<p>1. Than Shwe&#8217;s Group or brutual men<br />
2. Police Squad<br />
3. USDA or Kyant Phut with murphy<br />
4. SPDC&#8217;s families or their business or properties<br />
5. We have decided to show our strength very clearly in Burma.</p>
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		<title>By: Thin Thin</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/04/08/burmas-draft-2008-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-593248</link>
		<dc:creator>Thin Thin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2008 constitution is drafted by 45 &quot;&quot;SELECTED&quot;&quot; 45 members and NOT from elected candidates of public.

The ROAD MAP of 2003 was drafted by General Khin Nyunt and Gen Khin Nyunt delived the speech was-

1. The Election in 1990 was sincered and clean according to 100th. Press Conference on 13th. August 1990.

2. The 104th. Press Conference with all media of in and out side of Burma also deleivered as same the election was cleaned on 11th. July 1990.

So, SLORC and SPDC is never keep their promise and how to trust of
that Army Junta G or Gun Government.

Thin Thin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2008 constitution is drafted by 45 &#8220;&#8221;SELECTED&#8221;" 45 members and NOT from elected candidates of public.</p>
<p>The ROAD MAP of 2003 was drafted by General Khin Nyunt and Gen Khin Nyunt delived the speech was-</p>
<p>1. The Election in 1990 was sincered and clean according to 100th. Press Conference on 13th. August 1990.</p>
<p>2. The 104th. Press Conference with all media of in and out side of Burma also deleivered as same the election was cleaned on 11th. July 1990.</p>
<p>So, SLORC and SPDC is never keep their promise and how to trust of<br />
that Army Junta G or Gun Government.</p>
<p>Thin Thin</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Farrelly</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/04/08/burmas-draft-2008-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-554790</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Farrelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken, and other interested readers,

A very reliable source informs me that:
&quot;...the official translation is still being finalised...The official Burmese version was finalised in February and sold parsimoniously...according to [...] there are a few differences between the Burmese version and the detailed basic principles [which was the document posted to New Mandala]...[but] the SPDC made a few last minute changes.&quot;

I hope that helps clear things up.  You are right -- this is not the final constitution put to the referendum.  As soon as I have any other versions (in either Burmese or English) I will be sure to post them here.

Best wishes to all,

Nich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken, and other interested readers,</p>
<p>A very reliable source informs me that:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;the official translation is still being finalised&#8230;The official Burmese version was finalised in February and sold parsimoniously&#8230;according to [...] there are a few differences between the Burmese version and the detailed basic principles [which was the document posted to New Mandala]&#8230;[but] the SPDC made a few last minute changes.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope that helps clear things up.  You are right &#8212; this is not the final constitution put to the referendum.  As soon as I have any other versions (in either Burmese or English) I will be sure to post them here.</p>
<p>Best wishes to all,</p>
<p>Nich</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Farrelly</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/04/08/burmas-draft-2008-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-554305</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Farrelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken,

Thanks for your messages.

I&#039;m sorry it has taken me a day to get to your question.  As I indicated in the original post, I&#039;m not sure if this is the version that was put to the referendum in May 2008.  I have never seen a version that I can confirm was the subject of the national vote, mostly because I don&#039;t have a hard copy to cross-reference.

The relationship between the &quot;principles&quot; and the &quot;constitution&quot; could, I expect, be clarififed by a couple of scanned pages from the version circulated, in hard copy, in Yangon earlier in the year.

The inconsistent way that the text was circulated ensured that there was never any certainty about any particular version.

If there is anything else I can help with, please feel free to get in touch more directly.

Best wishes,

Nicholas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken,</p>
<p>Thanks for your messages.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry it has taken me a day to get to your question.  As I indicated in the original post, I&#8217;m not sure if this is the version that was put to the referendum in May 2008.  I have never seen a version that I can confirm was the subject of the national vote, mostly because I don&#8217;t have a hard copy to cross-reference.</p>
<p>The relationship between the &#8220;principles&#8221; and the &#8220;constitution&#8221; could, I expect, be clarififed by a couple of scanned pages from the version circulated, in hard copy, in Yangon earlier in the year.</p>
<p>The inconsistent way that the text was circulated ensured that there was never any certainty about any particular version.</p>
<p>If there is anything else I can help with, please feel free to get in touch more directly.</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>Nicholas</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Gallant</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/04/08/burmas-draft-2008-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-554167</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Gallant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas and all, It now appears to me that the draft you have was the 2007 Fundamental Principles, that were used as the basis for the 2008 Constitution.  Do you have a translation of the final Constitution?
Thanks,
Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas and all, It now appears to me that the draft you have was the 2007 Fundamental Principles, that were used as the basis for the 2008 Constitution.  Do you have a translation of the final Constitution?<br />
Thanks,<br />
Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Hla Oo</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/04/08/burmas-draft-2008-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-553633</link>
		<dc:creator>Hla Oo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SPDC constitution sounds really scary as the military will forever control the strict 25% of three parliaments and, also the  army chief of staff will still have absolute power whenever emergency deems necessary in his opinion. 

Following is the summaries of parliamentary seats .

People Parliament or Lower House(Pyithu Hluttaw)
   Elected 330
   Army 110
Total 440

National Parliament or Upper House
  Elected 168
  Army 56
Total 224

Regional or State Parliaments
  Strict 25% from the army

But, that constitution is now the new constitution of Burma as the rigged referendum,  just after the devastating NARGIS, has already approved it.

Just hope the people of Burma will enjoy the “discipline-flourishing-democracy&quot; very soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SPDC constitution sounds really scary as the military will forever control the strict 25% of three parliaments and, also the  army chief of staff will still have absolute power whenever emergency deems necessary in his opinion. </p>
<p>Following is the summaries of parliamentary seats .</p>
<p>People Parliament or Lower House(Pyithu Hluttaw)<br />
   Elected 330<br />
   Army 110<br />
Total 440</p>
<p>National Parliament or Upper House<br />
  Elected 168<br />
  Army 56<br />
Total 224</p>
<p>Regional or State Parliaments<br />
  Strict 25% from the army</p>
<p>But, that constitution is now the new constitution of Burma as the rigged referendum,  just after the devastating NARGIS, has already approved it.</p>
<p>Just hope the people of Burma will enjoy the “discipline-flourishing-democracy&#8221; very soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Gallant</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/04/08/burmas-draft-2008-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-553465</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Gallant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas, 
Do you know if the document you have posted actually turned out to be the Constitution presented at the referendum in May 2008?
I&#039;m going to bet it was, but I sure don&#039;t know.
Ken Gallant, Prof. of Law, Univ. of Ark--Little Rock, Bowen School of Law</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas,<br />
Do you know if the document you have posted actually turned out to be the Constitution presented at the referendum in May 2008?<br />
I&#8217;m going to bet it was, but I sure don&#8217;t know.<br />
Ken Gallant, Prof. of Law, Univ. of Ark&#8211;Little Rock, Bowen School of Law</p>
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		<title>By: Cyclone relief no laughing matter &#171; Rule of Lords</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyclone relief no laughing matter &#171; Rule of Lords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new constitution may insist that nobody can be held for more than a day without going to a court or being charged, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new constitution may insist that nobody can be held for more than a day without going to a court or being charged, [...]</p>
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