As promised, the anti-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) has mobilised protestors from outside Bangkok to flood the city. They started streaming in from 12 March 2010 for the main rally on 14 March 2010.
The UDD (red-shirts) have the intent and organisation to bring down the government. The question now is whether it has the resources to get done what it has been promising ominously since the last major demonstration in April last year – one final push to bring down the existing government, led by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva of the Democrat Party.
As this article is written, mainstream media report that more than 100,000 from the Northeast, North and other parts of the country have converged in Bangkok’s Ratchadamnoen Avenue, which has been the scene of previous demonstrations. The number is obviously smaller than what the UDD has been promising all month long.
But then last year the government concluded that the same number was instrumental for the Songkran protests although the pro-Thaksin camp insisted the protestors numbered twice the size. Even if we take that scenario into account and assume the numbers this time around can be in the region of 200,000, it is still far short of the promised 1 million. On that account it appears that the show of strength is not impressive.
But the day is still young. The crowd are still flowing and the numbers are still rising. The logistics for the organisers are clearly daunting and delays are inevitable. Plus many supporters from Bangkok are probably not in the count. For example, the sizable support that Thaksin gets from taxi drivers in Bangkok is not in the tally, but could be a significant factor when trouble does start.
More critically, 200,000 protestors are more than sufficient to paralyse the city if the protestors choose to do so. And if they hit the 500,000 mark, which most observers think is within their means, then that is a show of strength than the ruling government cannot ignore for too long, especially if they decided to take to the streets beyond Ratchadamnoen Avenue, as they are promising to do now.
But this is exactly where the crux of the matter lies. How long can both parties stare at each other without making the first move that could lead to violence? On the part of the UDD, the numbers game in terms of size of protestors is one thing. The bigger question is what are the organisers intending to do with the crowd. They have promised a non-violent showdown. But in any tactical assault, results need to be achieved quickly. And this is clearly a tactical manoeuvre for an inevitable strategic intent. The protestors are not expected to hang around more than a week.
In 2008, the anti-Thaksin (ie. yellow-shirt) supporters did something similar by bringing intense pressure on the then-incumbent government by doing sit-in demonstrations for months at key government buildings. It didn’t work even when the government was forced to shuffle the venue for their cabinet meetings because of the siege on government buildings. This forced the yellow-shirts to do the unthinkable and seize the country’s largest international airport. That move brought the government down in less than 10 days. So, the recourse for the reds now has to be something drastic, their non-violent message notwithstanding.
There is also talk of behind-the-scenes horse-trading. The choicest horse in the stable is Newin Chidchob. The mercurial politician was instrumental in bringing down the pro-Thaksin government in 2008 by defecting to the Democrat Party at the last moment. But no one is clear of Newin’s intentions. There is a good chance that even he is not too sure at this moment how to throw the dice.
But decisions have to be taken fast because events are unfolding swiftly. For one thing, indications are that Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva is contemplating declaring emergency rule in Bangkok. Currently, his government has invoked the Internal Security Act (ISA). Emergency rule means the military will have direct control of the security arrangements but the civil government still retains political power (under ISA, the military can only assist the police in carrying out security arrangements). But emergency rule could just be one step away from martial law. Abhisit’s Government has insisted that this won’t happen. But such a promise is not for him to make or keep; civil government’s usually don’t have much say in these matters especially if the military rule is engineered through a coup d’etat.
Beneath all these scenarios, there of course lies the royal factor. Most commentators have stayed away from commenting on this aspect, though this is probably one of the most critical elements in the drama. Does the royal family have a preference in terms of political alliance and is that preference universal within the family? These are some of the questions that will determine the course of Thailand’s political fate in the coming months. The royals could stay neutral or abandon its preference once the will of people is clearly exercised in the ensuing months.
But whatever happens, it cannot stay out of the fray – as the royals are aware, along with all the other players in the political drama; this time around the battle lines are too pronounced and the people are at a point where they desperately want closure.
my previous theory that the King was sheltering at Siraraj Hospital from the other royals, probably the prince and queen, is now “confirmed” by rumours that there were poison attempts and his visit to the palace the other night was curtailed because of threats….
so, who knows (or cares?) or is following which royals right now?
where is Prem? is he also holed up at Bankhen?
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So far I am impressed that the Red Shirts could, so far, manage a huge (around 200,000 protesters less the 4 most prominent members: Shinawatras who had conveniently bolted out of Thailand) peaceful protest and actually behave. I am even more impressed that they’ve picked a weekend to start their trek to Bangkok, thus minimizing traffic havoc.
But come Monday what?
If the Reds could rally the Bangkok people to sympathize with their grievances (so far aside from perceived injustice to Thaksin and demand for new elections, they’ve not clearly articulated why they are so riled up), they could succeed to toppled the Abhisit government.
Personally I would welcome a new election. But are the Reds leaders truly prepared for a new elections . . . .? I doubt new elections could accomplish much or change the political landscape any better.
But new elections will at least hopefully ease whatever pent-up anger the voters may harbor against the politicians who are supposed to represent them.
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My sources indicate that the King is still in Siraraj Hospital and the security cordon is tight. Security is also tight around the palace. These measures raises serious question about the nature of the threat to Thailand’s elite/ruling class arising from the current demonstrations as well as possible power struggle within the family.
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Kishen – an excellent post and analysis : I’d like to congratulate you on your brilliance.
Just a couple of points :
1) Abhisit’s power seems to be rapidly collapsing – you correctly state it took months, and months, for the PAD to oust Samak, than Wongsawat.
It was a long time before the PAD was able to force their governments (from memory it may only have been Wongsawat’s) to set up offices at Don Muang.
In contrast, Abhisit has sought refuge at the 11th Regiment’s compound, even before the protests gained anything like massive momentum.
And holed up there, he’s now beholden to – among others the Third Army – which has many Thaksin sympathisers among its’ ranks at officer level, and totally at foot-soldier level.
2) the Royal Family : Thaksin needs them to confer legitimacy on his (what I see as now inevitable) victory.
Whatever splits within there may be – they will present a united face.
HRH The Crown Prince will be the winner : as far as I can see, HRH has long been trying to broker a peace between pro and anti-Thaksin forces, and thereby save the kingdom.
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ํํYesterday the Reds numbered ‘at least 150,000 and growing’. But today the Red march had dwindled to a mere 80,000. Desertion among the Red army?
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Kishen – there’s always very tight security around the Royal Family, when Thailand habitually goes through these sorts of crises.
It’s nothing to get terribly worked up about.
Most Red-Shirts simply want the Royals to stay out of party politics – not their overthrow. Thaksin certainly does not want that.
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Actually I agree with the post, I felt that the red demand is too soft and to some extend, wouldnt really lead the what they really want. The parliamentary dissolution wouldnt solve anything, they have to ask for the changing of power than all the shady laws that been hidden in Thailand’s civil law.
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David Brown – perhaps the most difficult thing of all, for Thai-observers, is to sift through the ever so-many rumours.
Personally – though I never discount them completely – I don’t place much weight on them : unless there are sufficient other reasons to start giving them weight. Eg. The Queen and the CP – we can not assume they necessarily agree. Poison ? I doubt it.
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Within this condition, demanding the House to be dissolved is the only probable option for the Red, otherwise they’ll go home empty handed (and that might very well be the case).
Let’s say if the UDD leaders can dramatically increase the number of protesters (currently estimated between 90,000-130,0000) and the Red can bring about House dissolution or resignation of PM, what then? If there’ll be a new election, the Red’s ad hoc party, Peua Thai, might be able to win, but it won’t be a landslide, and once again, a coalition government has to be formed. Peua Thai, in fact, may not entirely be able to form the government; parliamentarian voting has a chance of swinging back to the Democrats.
Sorry to be cruel to UDD leaders; but it’s probably a good idea to accept now that time is not yet on your side. The social conditions of Thai society are not yet ready for the overthrow of the exisiting regime. Bangkok is not so far, the Red folks can always come back. In the near future, Red leaders should concentrate in reaching out to the middle/educated class. Winning the middle class war must become one of their priorities. UDD leaders must ask themselves whether they have thought about a long term plan for the Red– can the Red govern in case they happen to win in, say, 6 -10 years from now? It all depends on vision. Radical land reform, tax reform, a mechanism for funding of the welfare state– these three ‘giants of reform’ alone will take every government elected in a country like Thailand decades to formulate. Do the Red movement have the vision for them? Do the Red have a capability in bringing this alternative? Without thinking seriously about the road ahead, the Red movement is meaningless in terms of political purpose.
“Patience is sweet” – I once wrote this to cheer up a man. He has later become Thailand’s 27th Prime Minister. I’ll say it again here, the Red must be patient. Your time has only begun.
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Having been out at the protest twice, I’ve never seen numbers approaching 150,000.
On Sunday early afternoon there were about 50,000 there, and I walked from Sanam Luang to the Royal Plaza. Red leaders announced from the stage that half a million were there. Absolute nonsense.
By evening, my guess is it was somewhere between 80,000 and 100,000, perhaps slightly more.
People should stop inflating the figures to fantastical levels that simply don’t match the reality. Wishful thinking doesn’t make it real.
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It’s very obvious by now what the Red Shirt strategy is – ie. close-down Bangkok :
see Thanong, Sunday 14th @
Permalink : http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong
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Submarine, you have said in just one post, what others like me, have been trying to say for quite some time, over many posts, on various blogs.
Thank you.
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“Patience is sweet”
Its a great pity Thailand’s 27th Prime Minister did not have more integrity and decide to heed your advice!
btw, you should be asking the ‘Democrat’ led government whether they are capable of implmenting the reforms you suggested – judging by its performance so far (and in numerous previous governments), I would say the answer must be a resounding NO.
(unlike the government that was deposed by judicial/military/judicial coups in 2006, which despite its faults, did more genuine reforming in its few years than the ‘Democrats’ have ever done)
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Submarine: I forgot to add that I do agree with you that time (and history) is on the side of the red movement – and maybe even on Thaksin side too, if only he would learn some humilty and accept he too made mistakes (intentionally and unintentionally).
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All you ever needed to know about Peua Thai is contained in the fact that Samak Sundaravej led them in government. If you can’t see the complete mismatch between that fascist and the communists he was only interested in murdering decades ago you are one sick puppy. It is we that have been waiting patiently, for Thai politics to improve itself. It seems that the disparate store-bought politicians in Peua Thai saw nothing wrong with a person who years ago encouraged criminal scum to murder people who wanted to improve this country. This is not reform. It’s just yet another flat-out greedy powergrab. Peua Thai has no moral integrity. It’s a party made up of people who sold out on their former principles because they (wrongly) believed that their fellow Thais weren’t paying them enough money and respect. They think the rest of us mere mortals owe them a rich life. we own them precisely zilch! It is just another lousy party of parasite flip-flops. Where the money is there to be corrupted, they are! And if you say they are just like the Democrats, I would agree. Dare to want much much more than a few weasel words and a few measly baht of charitable blackmail from yet another dead-end politician.
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A few comment:
The King “poisoned” and “who cares” ! Thais do: that’s for sure and that is what counts not the “theory” of David Brown!!!!!!!!!
George Jetson: there might not be anywhere near the numbers the UDD claimed on the streets – well not yet anyway – but Mr/Dr/Prof Jetson sounds as though he was employed by the Ministry of Interior….what methodology did he utilize to count the numbers?????
Back to reality!!!!!!!!
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I dont know why but people keep saying that the yellow closing down air-port were the cause of the last government demise, NO it is not!!, it was the court dissolution of PPP that causes the shift in power! got the point straight.
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@ Tarrin (#18)
In a way, “the yellow closing down air-port were the cause of the last government demise” – at least accelerating the process. Anupong and the service chiefs used the occasion to demonstrate beyond doubt and in the most public way possible their opposition to Somchai’s PPP government – through their joint appearance on national TV on 26 November calling for the government to step down. In the extreme context of the nation’s international airports being occupied by PAD, the message could not have been clearer: “No matter what – we want you gone”. With the military arm’s stance made so clear, no surprise that the judicial arm in turn saw their way to dissolving PPP just a few days later on 2 December – by then, effectively, delivering just a coup de grace shot.
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Nganadeeleg could be right that history, eventually (but could take maybe 5-10 years or even longer), co uld be on their side. But I doubt history will ever look favorably on the record of one Thaksin Shinawatra whose record of extra-judicial killing rampage, divisive politics, mafia-like organized massive corruption, and rampant vote-buying ‘democracy’ would never pass as Thai hero or model of sort.
But everyone’s entitled to their opinion of course.
BTW. . . has anyone at New Mandala shed their blood lately for the Thaksin cause?
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Submarine, it sounds like you’re wearing “red underwear” (Thaksin’s analogy for people who’re secretly suporting the red shirts).
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I am not at all impressed nor surprised with UDD being “peaceful protest and actually behave”.
I think it would be more correct to say that : one must be impressed by “Blue Shirts” (aka Sutheps & Newin’s thugs), and PAD (disguised as reds) or any other “third hand” (army’s in disguise perhaps? ) showing quite a lot of restrain and NOT arranging some provocation, as was last year – the REAL reason why “Songkran violence” happened.
I wonder – Abhisit & Suthep have decided to gain some face this time and avoid creating the situation which they could use as a reason for another heavy crackdown ?

very much unlike Suthep Thugsuban !
what’s on his mind, or perhaps he still keeps up sleeve some surprise?
but nevertheless – it is the actual reason why so far it has been peaceful. red-shirts though even last year would not have started to riot – if gov. provocateurs wouldn’t pre-arrange the whole plan for crackdown and baited reds first in Pattaya, then repeatedly in Bangkok.
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more demagoguery & spin from Suthep !
Suthep: We’ll talk, if Thaksin okays it
clever bastard !
he implies that there is no point of talking with UDD leaders, since he doesn’t consider them seriously – no more than a servants of their master (Thaksin)
meanwhile though Parliament didn’t have a quorum already second time – and again, due to Democrat MPs absent.
and of course neither Abhisit nor Suthep has bothered even explain that – although here Suthep claims that he is ready to talk.
demagoguery and more demagoguery…
although now it looks like he is already prepared to unleash his “third-hand” dogs (would it be blue-shirts again or some other color?) – he mentioned about “spossible sabotage” intel.
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Khun Sub, your superior mind is acknowledged, but I simply cannot understand what you are getting out of this. Personal satisfaction? Forgotten a virtue as basic as “Party loyalty”??
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giant,
“Party loyalty?” I have never officially joined DP. My family supported the Dems in the past, during the leadership of Khun Chuan Leekpai; and whether or not they still do is beyond my knowledge since I spend most of my time outside Thailand. Of course, I do take party loyalty as one of my most important “values” (“virtue” is an incorrect term.) When I decide to join one, I’ll live with it through thick and thin.
Don’t worry too much, it has been an unequal battle from the beginning. Nobody in their right minds expect the Red folks to win. They’re just showing the civilised and the moralists of Bangkok that they, too, have style.
Don’t get panic, I have not attacked your party – “When I am abroad, I always make it a rule never to criticise or attack the government of my own country. I make up for lost time when I come home.” – Winston Churchill.
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