Over the past several days, a series of reports have emerged about the possible recommissioning of an old detention centre to house political and other prisoners in Thailand. Much remains unclear about the possible plan, particularly the issue of precisely who might fall into the category “political prisoner.”
Articles in Krungthep Thurakij and the Bangkok Post reported that representatives from the Ministry of Justice, the Department of Corrections and the Special Branch Police have met to discuss recommissioning a decommissioned Special Branch site of detention at Bang Khen police school to detain security, political, and foreign prisoners [those awaiting deportation]. The detention centre was used for political detainees beginning in 1963 until being decommissioned and given to the Special Branch Police by Pirapan Salirathavibhaga, during his tenure as Minister of Justice under the recent Democrat Party government. The Special Branch has not stated using the space yet, which was slated for use as offices.
A range of reasons have been offered as an explanation for the possible recommissioned prison. According to the Thai-Asean News Network, the Justice Ministry denied that it was to possibly hold former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. The Bangkok Post reported that overcrowding was the issue, according to Chartchai Sutthiklom, the director of the Department of Corrections. Krungthep Thurakij went further, and elaborated on the issue of overcrowding, noting that “political prisoners detained with other ordinary prisoners has caused problems, including overcrowding and agitating the prisoners” [“เนื่องจากปัจจุบันมีการนำ นักโทษการเมืองไปขังรวมกับนักโทษทั่วไป ทำให้เกิดปัญหาตามมา ทั้งเรื่องความแออัด และการเข้าไปปลุกระดมนักโทษ”]. The word used for “agitate” [“ปลุกระดม”] here is one laden with meaning and history; in the view of the repressive state, Communists agitated, for example.
Yet the most thought-provoking comment on the possible prison came a day later after the other reports, from Pirapan Salirathavibhaga himself. He wrote an article “New Prison for Political Prisoners?” [“คุกใหม่กับนักโทษการเมือง????”] in response to the various reports and posted it on the Democrat Party website, or Thai Rat newspaper has a summary.
Much of Pirapan’s article is about his work decommissioning the former place of detention, but he is also at pains to repeatedly stress that there are no political prisoners in Thailand at the present moment. Recent reports from Reporters Without Borders, the ongoing work of Political Prisoners in Thailand, as well as the lived experience of Red Shirt detainees and lèse majesté prisoners, including Daranee Charnchoengsilpakul, would suggest that there Pirapan is incorrect on this score.
But let’s look at how Pirapan defines “political prisoner” [นักโทษการเมือง]. Pirapan argues that many people misunderstand the category to refer to politicians have been charged with criminal actions. Instead, he notes that political prisoners are “Those who have been victimized by the side with administrative power to arrest or detain them due to fomenting a coup or because they have different political thinking. These are people who have not committed criminals acts” [“ผู้ที่ถูกฝ่ายที่มีอำนาจบริหารแผ่นดินจับตัวหรือควบคุมตัวไว้เนื่องจากการ ปฏิวัติรัฐประหาร หรือเพราะความคิดเห็นทางการเมืองที่แตกต่างกัน โดยผู้นั้นมิได้กระทำความผิดในทางอาญาใดๆ”].
Pirapan continues and notes that “The Department of Corrections does not have power under the law to hold this kind of prisoner” [“นักโทษหรือบุคคลประเภทนี้กรมราชทัณฑ์ไม่มีอำนาจตามกฎหมายที่จะควบคุมตัว”]. At another point in the article, Pirapan reiterates the lack of political prisoners in Thailand and then notes that “There are no political prisoners held in any prisons of the Department of Corrections” [“ไม่มีนักโทษการเมืองในการควบคุมตัวของเรือนจำใดๆ ของกรมราชทัณฑ์ด้วย”]. Perhaps it is simply Pirapan’s style of writing, or my method of translation, but there seems to be a lacuna present here.
Does this mean that there are other places of detention, or other state agencies responsible for detaining political prisoners? Clarity would be welcome.

Gotta love the Thai explanations. They’re about to open a prison for political prisoners because of the problems between those and other prisoners… yet in the same breath he claims there are no political prisoners.
Senior Thais are not good liars — they’re so accustomed to never being called out on their bullshit that they ignore obvious discrepancies with the facts, and don’t even make minimal effort to be consistent.
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I wonder what difference political prisoners and crime prisoners are,when political prisoner make devastation for more people than crime prisoner did it.
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I think the Thai elite’s use of language is more than just complacency resulting from years of not being challenged. They are actually very sophisticated and the kind of relentless forensic analysis of their silken tongues that Tyrell Haberkorn does so well is a necessary weapon in exposing them to the global light of day.
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Then what kind of “devastation” by political prisoner is considered as a crime?
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Link to Bangkok Post article with more details of the “Special” political prison that isn’t just being discussed, it’s actually being refurbished and made ready to open:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/256776/rogues-gallery-recalled-as-old-prison-comes-out-of-mothballs
How can it be that the government that has come to power out of the recent conflict, voted in by the very people who were being persecuted, shot at, hunted down, imprisoned by the Abhisit/military/royalist government is moving forward so forcefully to arrest the very same voters for speaking their mind and throwing the very same voters into prison for their political ideas, thoughts, positions?
Or is this all a multi-layered endlessly complex Thai story with the whole thing part of a plan to enact a pantomime/shadow puppet play of arresting and imprisoning Thaksin upon his upcoming return, and making sure he has a place to stay that is safe from assassination?
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It is often said that the Tories in Britain sometimes deliberately lose elections when times are bad, in the knowledge that Labour – misguidedly trusted by the working class – can wield the big stick more effectively.
Maybe cunning ruling class ploys are not restricted to Britain.
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Oh great. A new Bastille.
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Sam Deedes – and the US : eg. Dubya – “I left the black guy to clear up the mess” !!
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Can it be that people are… Shocked!.. to discover that the Phuea Thai Party are the elitist left hand to the Royal Thai Army’s elitist right hand?
Did you expect to hear the sound of one hand clapping?
Thailand is out of the fire and into the frying pan. It’s movements like the UPD that will continue, doing the heavy lifting and bringing about reform in Thailand.
Yingluck seems just another pretty face.
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Yes, this prison should be all set for Apisit and cohorts.
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Why this forum only touch upon the stories of Thailand? I think the new Mandala is about South East Asia (and it’s said so on the top of your page).
Why don’t we hear any interesting stories from Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei etc.?
Sorry if I post this question in the wrong section but I don’t know where to raise the question to this ANU academics/tourists to Thailand.
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curiosity #12 I don’t know why you are getting down voted, it seems a legitimate question to me. Though if you look closely there have been articles on Laos and both Burma and Malaysia have been running hot lately. But as for the rest of Southeast Asia, are they really that unexceptional that nobody cares about them? Maybe its New Mandala’s raunchy reputation that scares off the serious scholars.
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Thanks for these comments:
For the past five years or so our focus has been “mainland Southeast Asia”. New Mandala tilts, at various times, towards emphasising content about Thailand, about Burma and about Malaysia. Events sometimes dictate where our attention goes. This reflects the academic interests, active field research and other priorities of our team. We also have a fair amount of activity centered on Laos, and if you look back through the archives you’ll find there have been times when Cambodia, northeast India and southwest China have also received plenty of attention. Occasionally we publish a review or other piece that deals with Vietnam.
And, for what it’s worth, I just tallied up our 10 most recent posts and we have four on Malaysia, four on Thailand, one on Burma, and one on Buddhism.
We are certainly not averse to considering guest contributions on the other countries of mainland Southeast Asia. I know we could definitely do with more on Vietnam. If you’re inclined to offer something for our consideration, focused on Vietnam or anywhere else, then you can get in contact at the usual place.
Best wishes to all,
Nich
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I predict there will be a spike in stories & comments on those other countries next time they have a military coup.
I do agree, however, that it would be interesting to see more deep analysis about those other countries (even if they don’t have a military coup, or claim to be a democracy with a magnificent, omniscient and virtuous head of state).
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Not a prison, but a renovation to 5 star and tight security, secure telecoms for the 1 month (2 week?) stay of T right before he gets his pardon from either 1 place or another.
We are full circle to “honest mistake, did my best, how could I have known the result would be like this?” excuse that counter and or preempt any process(however warped to either direction) that resembles legal system.
Chalerm said it all, “anything is possible, as long as you can get most of the thai people to agree with you”.
T figured it out long ago. You can fool most of the thai people most off the time. Just have to stay one step ahead long enough to create hype value for your assets/positions then step off the train right before the inevitable crash (remember the lead up and sale of the telco?). Watch who really benefits from all the give aways that will create more debt as people simply buy more toys that expire in 2-5 years. And then the income gap as well as the economy may well get worse.
Unsustainable leadership with unsustainable policies. How are we better off?
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Perhaps we are seeing the birth of a new holiday.
From this year forward the dec 5 b-day may be remarketed (and PR + marketing has always been the key) as the daynThailand’s Mandela got his freedom after suffering injustices, humiliating loss of face, double standards, and , oh yeah that tax free billion or so confiscation.
So like Nelson, after suffering spending 27 years (cockroach years of course with 1 day = 1 year, symbolized by 27 days, of coursed reduced to 8 days because of his personal vouching for his own integrity and love for the monarchy), the New Face of Freedom and Democracy is released on dec 5, which from that day forth change it’s status to Thai Red shirt freedom day and the anniversary of the return of the billionaire to his proper status as the One.
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If I am not mistaken that’s the place where Chamlong was held after he broke his word and failed to starve to death before being taken for his historic meeting with the King and General Suchinda. How fitting for Thaksin to serve a token night of his sentence in a luxury cell there on 4th December before being pardoned of his crime by popular consent the following day!
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No danger of any family members going there for tax evasion. That is all disappeared now. 100,000 baht fine for billions baht gains.
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Interesting to see the potential PR juxtaposition of a royal pardon in Cambodia for Yellows in the face no such action across the border in Thai. The timing of the Camb pardon will be interesting to watch.
Alo interesting to note the increasing number of Thai political decisions actually being made on Camb soil, in Camb meeting rooms, under the certainly watchful/prying eyes of Camb interests – the latest possibly being military reshuffle list discussion/decision?
Also note the symbolism of red shirted Camb PM racking up 5 goals as “no one dared take the ball away from him” – that being the thai team defenders on the pitch.
The commingling of assets. monies, concessions, and power across border may well get increasingly confusing. HS looks like a winner in thai politics.
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