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		<title>Comment on Thailand&#8217;s new rural economy by Chris  Beale</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/10/03/thailands-new-rural-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-671784</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris  Beale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll  echoe  Chris  Bakers&#039;  comments  -  but  with  the  addition  that  decline  of  the  rural  economy  has  meant  far  more  empowerment  in  other  areas  for   Isaarn  :  
in  every  sense  -  not  least  the  now  far  more  welathy,  mobile  Isaarn  worker  attitude  that  he&#039;s/  she&#039;s    a  force  to  be  reckoned  with  -  if  not  a  separate  national  LAO  identity.
Isaarn  is  now  almost  a  nation   in  itself,  for  itself,  self  confident  in  its&#039;  self. Almost  ready  to  break-away  from  &quot;Tai&quot; land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll  echoe  Chris  Bakers&#8217;  comments  &#8211;  but  with  the  addition  that  decline  of  the  rural  economy  has  meant  far  more  empowerment  in  other  areas  for   Isaarn  :<br />
in  every  sense  &#8211;  not  least  the  now  far  more  welathy,  mobile  Isaarn  worker  attitude  that  he&#8217;s/  she&#8217;s    a  force  to  be  reckoned  with  &#8211;  if  not  a  separate  national  LAO  identity.<br />
Isaarn  is  now  almost  a  nation   in  itself,  for  itself,  self  confident  in  its&#8217;  self. Almost  ready  to  break-away  from  &#8220;Tai&#8221; land.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Commentary on Thailand&#8217;s Crown Prince by Chris Beale</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/11/06/commentary-on-thailands-crown-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-671774</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Beale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This  elite  obsession  with  &quot;Thailand&#039;s&quot;  Crown  Prince  is  a  distraction  from the  main  question  :  whether  the  country  can  hold  together ?
Just  one  example  -  given  below  -  an  opinion  poll  showing  Abhisits&#039;  popularity  apparently  soaring,  because  he  &quot;stood  up
to  Hun  Sen&quot;  over  Cambodia&#039;s  appointment  of  Isaarn&#039;s  hero  Thaksin.  Only  problem  with  this  poll  ? =  NO  Isaarn  opinion !Abhisit&#039;s popularity soars three times for downgrading ties with Cambodia :
From  The Nation, 7/11/09

&quot;The popularity rating of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has tripled after his decisive action to downgrade the diplomatic ties with Cambodia, Abac Poll said in a survey released on Friday.

In comparison to 23.3 per cent in the survey in September, Abhisit&#039;s popularity leaped to 68.6 per cent.

The prime minister was most popular in the South (88.2 per cent), followed by the Central Region (68.9 per cent), Bangkok (68.8 per cent) and the North (64.6 per cent).&quot;

The Nation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  elite  obsession  with  &#8220;Thailand&#8217;s&#8221;  Crown  Prince  is  a  distraction  from the  main  question  :  whether  the  country  can  hold  together ?<br />
Just  one  example  &#8211;  given  below  &#8211;  an  opinion  poll  showing  Abhisits&#8217;  popularity  apparently  soaring,  because  he  &#8220;stood  up<br />
to  Hun  Sen&#8221;  over  Cambodia&#8217;s  appointment  of  Isaarn&#8217;s  hero  Thaksin.  Only  problem  with  this  poll  ? =  NO  Isaarn  opinion !Abhisit&#8217;s popularity soars three times for downgrading ties with Cambodia :<br />
From  The Nation, 7/11/09</p>
<p>&#8220;The popularity rating of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has tripled after his decisive action to downgrade the diplomatic ties with Cambodia, Abac Poll said in a survey released on Friday.</p>
<p>In comparison to 23.3 per cent in the survey in September, Abhisit&#8217;s popularity leaped to 68.6 per cent.</p>
<p>The prime minister was most popular in the South (88.2 per cent), followed by the Central Region (68.9 per cent), Bangkok (68.8 per cent) and the North (64.6 per cent).&#8221;</p>
<p>The Nation</p>
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		<title>Comment on Commentary on Thailand&#8217;s Crown Prince by abejero &#124; from the Big Apple to the banks of the Mekong</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/11/06/commentary-on-thailands-crown-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-671769</link>
		<dc:creator>abejero &#124; from the Big Apple to the banks of the Mekong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hat tip to PPT, and read their About page. This is a good blog for those interested in Southeast Asia politics, especially with increasing political repression in Thailand in face of the impending succession. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hat tip to PPT, and read their About page. This is a good blog for those interested in Southeast Asia politics, especially with increasing political repression in Thailand in face of the impending succession. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review of Wassana by Somsak Jeamteerasakul</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/11/06/review-of-wassana/comment-page-1/#comment-671768</link>
		<dc:creator>Somsak Jeamteerasakul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michael :
&lt;i&gt;I suppose it’s too much to hope that the book will be translated..&lt;/i&gt;

I definitely hope not. Wassana&#039;s Thai prose is atrociously bad. Believe me, it&#039;s far better to read the review!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michael :<br />
<i>I suppose it’s too much to hope that the book will be translated..</i></p>
<p>I definitely hope not. Wassana&#8217;s Thai prose is atrociously bad. Believe me, it&#8217;s far better to read the review!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review of Wassana by Chris Beale</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/11/06/review-of-wassana/comment-page-1/#comment-671761</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Beale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s  a  very  debatable  point  whether  Anand  was   the  &quot;quick  fix&quot;  the  military  needed.  But  yes  -  otherwise :  an  excellent  review,  much  appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s  a  very  debatable  point  whether  Anand  was   the  &#8220;quick  fix&#8221;  the  military  needed.  But  yes  &#8211;  otherwise :  an  excellent  review,  much  appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Commentary on Thailand&#8217;s Crown Prince by Chris Beale</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/11/06/commentary-on-thailands-crown-prince/comment-page-1/#comment-671758</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Beale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph  -  I&#039;d  be  surprised  if  any  member  of  the  general  public  or  academic/ activist  found  anything  more  on  this  than  is  already  in  Handley&#039;s  book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph  &#8211;  I&#8217;d  be  surprised  if  any  member  of  the  general  public  or  academic/ activist  found  anything  more  on  this  than  is  already  in  Handley&#8217;s  book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lintner on Burma&#8217;s army officers by planB</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/11/04/7059lintner-on-burmas-army-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-671754</link>
		<dc:creator>planB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a general misconception about Myanmar that those from the west who has never even visited will assume with their western views of the world.
Taking Turnell Viacary accusation of SPDC hoarding of the GAS wealth for example.
1) Not counting $ spent on building Naypyidaw conveniently dismiss that as megalomaniac, astrological motivated act.
2) Admitting Myanmar spent 35% of the GNP but not recognizing where the $ come from.
3) Dismissing  outright the infrastructure cost of Myanmar under SPDC as not part of capital expenditure because these are deemed self serving.
These are but common tactic that Turnell and Vicary used and believed by most who zeal to vilify SPDC self serving interest over shadow common sense.
Visit the country and proof to yourself.
Yes SPDC is hoarding $ from one sided deal with Thailand and China for it own future.
no SPDC is not the Turnell Vicary portrayal of sich evil entity ;
&quot;The ruling regime has little understanding of the dynamics of a market economy, and mistakes the building of roads, bridges, dams and other physical infrastructure as constituting ‘economic development’ in themselves. Burma’s state is almost wholly predatory, and is not so much parasitic of its host as all- consuming. If in other countries ruling regimes behave occasionally as racketeers in skimming a ‘cut’ from prosperous business, then Burma’s is more like a looter – destroying what it can neither create nor understand.&quot;
when does an economist dismiss so readily an infrastructure spending as irrelevant?
The academic arrogance is so glaring.
These are the same lies that is repeatedly used as truth.
Visit the country and make up your own mind.
As for the 3 points listed explain the west contributed to the Paranoia and Xenophobia that the SPDC is exhibiting ?
Litner is no more expert than Turnell and Vicary until proven otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a general misconception about Myanmar that those from the west who has never even visited will assume with their western views of the world.<br />
Taking Turnell Viacary accusation of SPDC hoarding of the GAS wealth for example.<br />
1) Not counting $ spent on building Naypyidaw conveniently dismiss that as megalomaniac, astrological motivated act.<br />
2) Admitting Myanmar spent 35% of the GNP but not recognizing where the $ come from.<br />
3) Dismissing  outright the infrastructure cost of Myanmar under SPDC as not part of capital expenditure because these are deemed self serving.<br />
These are but common tactic that Turnell and Vicary used and believed by most who zeal to vilify SPDC self serving interest over shadow common sense.<br />
Visit the country and proof to yourself.<br />
Yes SPDC is hoarding $ from one sided deal with Thailand and China for it own future.<br />
no SPDC is not the Turnell Vicary portrayal of sich evil entity ;<br />
&#8220;The ruling regime has little understanding of the dynamics of a market economy, and mistakes the building of roads, bridges, dams and other physical infrastructure as constituting ‘economic development’ in themselves. Burma’s state is almost wholly predatory, and is not so much parasitic of its host as all- consuming. If in other countries ruling regimes behave occasionally as racketeers in skimming a ‘cut’ from prosperous business, then Burma’s is more like a looter – destroying what it can neither create nor understand.&#8221;<br />
when does an economist dismiss so readily an infrastructure spending as irrelevant?<br />
The academic arrogance is so glaring.<br />
These are the same lies that is repeatedly used as truth.<br />
Visit the country and make up your own mind.<br />
As for the 3 points listed explain the west contributed to the Paranoia and Xenophobia that the SPDC is exhibiting ?<br />
Litner is no more expert than Turnell and Vicary until proven otherwise.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Devil&#8217;s Discus &#8211; in Thai by CJ Hinke</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2008/05/29/the-devils-discus-in-thai/comment-page-2/#comment-671753</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ Hinke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragon&#039;s Mouth Publications informs me that sometimes the ABE website fails to reset. The link above works and the price is $40 + shipping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragon&#8217;s Mouth Publications informs me that sometimes the ABE website fails to reset. The link above works and the price is $40 + shipping.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review of Wassana by michael</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/11/06/review-of-wassana/comment-page-1/#comment-671750</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much, Craig Reynolds, for this illuminating review. I suppose it&#039;s too much to hope that the book will be translated, although it points to extremely important considerations which, despite the light they shed on motives &amp; the way decisions are made in every sphere of life here, are usually overlooked or at least only mentioned as  exotic trivia in analyses by academia &amp; the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much, Craig Reynolds, for this illuminating review. I suppose it&#8217;s too much to hope that the book will be translated, although it points to extremely important considerations which, despite the light they shed on motives &amp; the way decisions are made in every sphere of life here, are usually overlooked or at least only mentioned as  exotic trivia in analyses by academia &amp; the media.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lintner on Burma&#8217;s army officers by Totila</title>
		<link>http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/11/04/7059lintner-on-burmas-army-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-671739</link>
		<dc:creator>Totila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanctions debates (over a country now awash in fossil fuels and with opaque finances not saying where those billions go), engagement theatrics (very possibly again a “triumph of hope over experience”) and emotional ad hominem attacks on Mr. Lintner, probably the best-informed and most objective observer in the region...

By all means talk to the SPDC and look for ways out of the morass, but seriously try to account for what most of the players’ non-altruistic agendas are. And if your only end result is—slightly kinder sergeants conducting borderland search and destroy sweeps; more competitive comparison shopping possibilities for armaments and luxury items (for the Tatmadaw and associated business cronies) plus shifting of the textile sweat factories back from Thailand (where Burma’s rich history of labor protection will work miracles) then what is the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanctions debates (over a country now awash in fossil fuels and with opaque finances not saying where those billions go), engagement theatrics (very possibly again a “triumph of hope over experience”) and emotional ad hominem attacks on Mr. Lintner, probably the best-informed and most objective observer in the region&#8230;</p>
<p>By all means talk to the SPDC and look for ways out of the morass, but seriously try to account for what most of the players’ non-altruistic agendas are. And if your only end result is—slightly kinder sergeants conducting borderland search and destroy sweeps; more competitive comparison shopping possibilities for armaments and luxury items (for the Tatmadaw and associated business cronies) plus shifting of the textile sweat factories back from Thailand (where Burma’s rich history of labor protection will work miracles) then what is the point?</p>
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